Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0UrR-000658-71 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:58:33 -0700 Received: from netscaler1.rice.edu ([128.42.205.5] helo=mh3.mail.rice.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0UrO-00064y-2p for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:58:32 -0700 Received: from mh3.mail.rice.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71122880AC for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:58:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-2.4.4 at mh3.mail.rice.edu Received: from mh3.mail.rice.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (mh3.mail.rice.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KyVbH8UIiUUC for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:58:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Starlight (c-24-18-203-65.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.18.203.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F98F288090 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:58:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Marjorie Scherf" To: References: <006001c7b044$69a6c3f0$0300a8c0@Starlight> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7DC8@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: her whom I would be seeing Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:56:53 -0700 Message-ID: <00bd01c7b225$e07c3900$0300a8c0@Starlight> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C7B1EB.341D6100" In-Reply-To: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7DC8@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcewQIPc7LO6HBqdTi+grQUCyQU79QAABLLwAFj8eEAAH7YpIA== X-Spam-Score: 0.9 X-Spam-Score-Int: 9 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5047 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mls1@rice.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 8139 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C7B1EB.341D6100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _____ From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Turniansky, Michael [UNK] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 5:41 AM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: her whom I would be seeing Marjorie: When using {goi} it makes no difference whether the {ko'a} is the one that comes first or second, as long as the terminators of the other things are in the right place. For example, if I wanted to say some things about my friend, more specifically the one that plays reed instruments, the first time I referred to this person I might say le mi pendo poi pilno fi lonu zgike fe lo xagri ku'o ku goi ko'a First, let me say that skaryzgik is an interesting and pretty choice for a lojbanic handle. Second, that utterance may not mean exactly what you intended, as the "fe lo xagri" is the x2 place of the "zgike", which is supposed to be an event. If you meant it there, then you would probably want "tu'a" before "lo" Perhaps you meant it to be the X2 place of pilno, in which case you would to close of the nu clause with a kei or ku after zgike. --gejsypa Sorry, I left out a terminator. mu'omi'e .skaryzgik. ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C7B1EB.341D6100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

 

From: = lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Turniansky, Michael [UNK]
Sent: Monday, June 18, = 2007 5:41 AM
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Subject: = [lojban-beginners] Re: her whom I would be seeing

 

Marjorie:

 

When using {goi} it makes no difference whether the {ko’a} is the one = that comes first or second, as long as the terminators of the other things = are in the right place.

For example, if I wanted to say some things about my friend, more specifically the = one that plays reed instruments, the first time I referred to this person I might = say

le mi pendo poi pilno fi lonu zgike fe lo xagri ku’o ku goi = ko’a

    First, let me say that skaryzgik  is an interesting and = pretty choice for a lojbanic handle.  Second, that utterance may not mean = exactly what you intended, as the "fe lo xagri" is the x2 place of the "zgike", which is supposed to be an event.  If you meant = it there, then you  would probably want "tu'a" before  "lo" Perhaps you meant it to be the X2 place of pilno, = in which case you would to close of the nu clause with a kei or ku after = zgike.

   = ;            =      --gejsypa

 =

Sorry, I left out a terminator…

mu'omi’e .skaryzgik.

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