Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I163o-00060u-2k for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:41:48 -0700 Received: from 25.mail-out.ovh.net ([213.186.37.103]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I163j-00060d-Qh for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:41:47 -0700 Received: (qmail 19691 invoked by uid 503); 20 Jun 2007 19:42:03 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 20 Jun 2007 19:42:03 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail24.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 25.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2007 19:42:02 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 2007 19:41:35 -0000 Received: from 35.59-225-89.dsl.completel.net (35.59-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.59.35]) by ssl0.ovh.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:41:35 +0200 Message-ID: <1182368495.467982efaf472@ssl0.ovh.net> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:41:35 +0200 From: m.kornig@sondal.net To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: non-bridi grammar? References: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7DE5@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7DE5@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 89.225.59.35 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 X-Spam-Score-Int: 3 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5073 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: m.kornig@sondal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 927 Selon "Turniansky, Michael \\[UNK\\]" : > cmavo of type COI Which type? How can I recognize cmavo of this type? > take a following sumti and the combined phrase > functions grammtically like discursives grammtically like a UI, that is > to say, it can appear basically anywhere in a sentece. For example, the > following is perfectly grammatical: > > le mi gerku coi pat cu blabi => my dog (Hi, Pat!) is white. And how would you know that {pat.} belongs to {coi} and not to {blabi}? > An utterance doesn't have to be a sentence/brivla. For example, if > someone asks: > > ma pa citka ta ("Who ate that?") {pa} is a number meaning "one", isn't it? > A perfectly valid response is "oi sai ro'e le blabi gerku po'e mi" > (grrr... the white dog, which belongs to me), which isn't a brivla, > either, but is an multi-word utterance. Where could I find more about such discursives? Martin