Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I33Lf-0000P7-KT for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:12:20 -0700 Received: from netscaler1.rice.edu ([128.42.205.5] helo=mh3.mail.rice.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I33Lb-0000Nr-MY for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:12:18 -0700 Received: from mh3.mail.rice.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731202880B1 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:12:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-2.4.4 at mh3.mail.rice.edu Received: from mh3.mail.rice.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (mh3.mail.rice.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7yy+MbwZOtVn for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:12:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Starlight (c-24-18-203-65.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.18.203.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E81F2880AC for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:12:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Marjorie Scherf" To: References: <1182798606.4680130e60899@ssl0.ovh.net> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: I'm... My name's... Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:10:37 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c7b7b0$55cd6640$0300a8c0@Starlight> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 In-Reply-To: <1182798606.4680130e60899@ssl0.ovh.net> Thread-Index: Ace3ptUJbSaY4lWITaGige2ufAkozQAB+kkg X-Spam-Score: 1.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 12 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 5142 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mls1@rice.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 955 I think that x1 of {cmene} needs to take a quote. I think that mi'e can only be used to refer to one's self. Although I as well would be interested to know if there are useful ways around this. mu'omi'e .skaryzgik. -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of m.kornig@sondal.net Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 12:10 PM To: Lojban mailing for beginners Subject: [lojban-beginners] I'm... My name's... Hi, Is there a difference in meaning between the two sentences {mi'e tim.} and {tim. cmene mi}? Are they both correct? Both used? Say you are with your friend and want to give her name as well. I guess this would be something like {djein. .e tim. cmene mi}? Can you do this with {mi'e}, too, maybe straight forward {mi'e djein. .e tim.}? "What's your name?" would be {ma cmene do}. Again the question: can you ask about someone's name using {mi'e}, too? Martin