Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IB8FR-0005kQ-Gu for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:03:18 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IB8F0-0005jq-L9 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:03:16 -0700 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E4CCE841 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:02:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: double letters Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:02:39 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200707131845.34291.phma@phma.optus.nu> <200707170855.22834.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560707170709s80c5531x225e24070ebc8182@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560707170709s80c5531x225e24070ebc8182@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200707180802.40007.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 2 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5228 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 908 On Tuesday 17 July 2007 10:09, Jorge Llambías wrote: > That would give a list of infinite valid onsets. Again, one can restrict it > by common sense, but I prefer a concrete rule because common sense > for these things is too dependent on one's linguistic background. > (You don't really need the additional "ntc" restriction there because "nt" > is not a valid initial.) A syllable can end with "n", in which case the following syllable cannot begin with "nt". > {xios,kia,mo}, purely as a string of syllables, would be allowed in my > scheme, while {skia,mo} wouldn't. > > (The morphological issues concerning tosmabru and slinku'i, that involve > rafsi, have to be considered separately.) The problem with {xioskiamo} is whether {xio} breaks off, even though there are no actual cmavo of the form "CiV" or "CuV". I say it does, and consider {xioskiamo} invalid. vlatai considers it valid. Pierre