Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IJygv-0001LM-NI for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:40:14 -0700 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IJygr-0001LC-GK for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:40:13 -0700 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i10so1618386mue for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:40:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Wvd2y9svzifjd0uRE66Aq0BtZ59W45svPySd9eBhwTKpwn7bIeOFMbHAxR2660vaWRc3mD9Q3hh/X3V3PHifjvGH1n4U7nFAFHVGhZRtAGoAQc2CuZbhYiIcCMOwZDWNy/iE9sBN/Rvx+S4zroLOQjmTDjNalUDInh55ToJBZ5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ev4PAntncfhRM926X3Nay2k/SGE2IuI42vpTkl3UohfwReNoammU9pulYC7b43jUoDhPemjAOtGRZQdqsVonOTtFSBa0bJLqfJTsnIIAUBROFKjHONoEnreQ3WuMz5Yo1czkGeSoFPM88p10iFCCgVRQXAI/+YD81sgCbFL8Tv4= Received: by 10.86.51.2 with SMTP id y2mr3457696fgy.1186868406658; Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.27.19 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560708111440v49378c87lf028d3f503d08fbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:40:06 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Wikipedia In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0708111411h22fc5855wacef2b994ce635e6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0708110947r47ef9328s4ac8b2b2c602d217@mail.gmail.com> <580471.77687.qm@web56411.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <2f91285f0708111411h22fc5855wacef2b994ce635e6@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5353 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 702 On 8/11/07, Vid Sintef wrote: > > Beginning with a vowel is ok for stage 1 & 2 fu'ivla as they are used > in distinct constructs like {me la'o sy. avocado sy.} or {me la > .abakatat.} respectively; but stage 3 fu'ivla are exposed directly in > a sentence with other words. Stage 3 fu'ivla always start with CVCC-r-C, CCVC-r-C or CVC-r-C, so they never start with a vowel. But stage 4 fu'ivla (those that don't have a rafsi classifier) can start with a vowel. > If having a vowel at the beginning is > valid for all fu'ivla, will the unambiguity/easiness of parsing a > Lojban sentence be still always the case? No ambiguity in parsing is ever permitted. mu'o mi'e xorxes