Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IL3jM-0002N7-3z for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:15:13 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IL3jH-0002MZ-3x for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:15:11 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so687612nfv for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:15:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lmJajy/vyZ/l1voL6xVzZiui4q7lq4MXYpSu5/bDkamHYsu9hD53rCj8crobgq4RwCkmTG1JawZB4SHXrCMza9n5h6QroiMu8vhWPL8iC3IljSl6EnGfctsPYXZNQ4rgtsnZ3MaB7R3GMjobQUvsI0GL+EZz5ZeBQJOi3lq3Xu0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UwIyW+LKiKf6nAsS1R/hhWD5vhmXvF0mJhrw/O4m0q30E/RVgI5RqPqKwEW6USNbNh/BNzfHENRJ8n0SIRZgecJlHdknv8b/oWX+X+WTiarM54dTwQUVTWYU7hYZs5NaAOc24Eq9WhUC+I1v4kp77jcfvblv7CvSh5MCkW9Cez4= Received: by 10.86.51.2 with SMTP id y2mr5889162fgy.1187126102754; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.27.19 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560708141415l72511744pfff1fd03eb647159@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:15:02 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: le vinji vs lo vinji In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0708141336t23e9e7c3j93315074b877fca2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0708130410g245818a8tc6038a3c7254a822@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560708130906y258edbe1m2854238c3041a975@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0708140559n1981eb32vd491bcdb7632abba@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560708140644g57af032bv49695fca87fa5741@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0708140831j25214ce5x4c75ad9dcb79f3b9@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560708141133w37b6540cob75ad444317c5f0d@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0708141336t23e9e7c3j93315074b877fca2@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5366 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 370 On 8/14/07, Vid Sintef wrote: > The first instance I've come across was {loi jmive cu se zbasu > zi'o loi selci}, on the (converted) x2 place of which I was made > vainly focused, as you say. That's why I prefer not to use {se zmadu} in the sense "consists of". I think {gunma} works for that: {lo jmive cu gunma lo selci}. mu'o mi'e xorxes