Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IJB6D-0000iy-08 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:43:01 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IJB68-0000in-6a for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:43:00 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so134515nfv for ; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:42:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=g+NB0Tx4oc08fb6dCAowVqI1NqMXRM80jlXXo7xqNuHoQ5RAa9BgOQ7K2gJnw8Oob8uzmgLISY3UrMo5mZXV35MXQMJV1MjElT8KOVG5PdAjQUaNmltX+fgo53pUzS9CIvw2VK8wbzm8wZ1yZ4bKZTUesGcHtYHb/Bqes5sdWiQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=szZVf2MDUfpu22ymBRWzbKj0XUqnjlerHQuOFrJN/YTfM0bR+vmmVJ55DRgFGLa++2Oo+5HYG4qM6ccai/AQzzF0u8romHP/hZrpZ9HZNKoez3luyaK34wpzM/JvYen/OYLXmJ69sThnfDVxNn5YlMjerpwjHjWYpJTKMckH5xQ= Received: by 10.86.68.16 with SMTP id q16mr1611541fga.1186677773849; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560708090942h20257e55xb6a470849e82e917@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:42:53 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: anti-Zipfian gismu rant In-Reply-To: <46BB3C86.7060107@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <46C10802@webmail.bcpl.net> <46BB3C86.7060107@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5322 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 584 It might be worth pointing out that the _real_ Zipf's law has nothing to do with word lengths, but only with word frequencies, see: The lojbanic use of "Zipf's law" to refer to the fact that frequent words tend to be short is one of the traditional misuses of technical terms by Lojbanists. Not that it is terribly important what one calls things, but one has to be aware that Lojbanic terminology has high chances of being completely non-standard, even if the concepts hidden behind the false terminology do make sense. mu'o mi'e xorxes