Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Iaw4E-0000O5-MY for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:18:23 -0700 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.177]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Iaw4C-0000Nm-1u for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:18:22 -0700 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m16so3208745waf for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=NJL4s1+yxaj6bNVvx/LNlaw+nYtLwDDmYbffIKHXEUg=; b=gdbpoDLn0cRfQSfR9tKmjc/ORnWovqZc6nEeCurWvry7gA15RTNnk2KpWPZU/t74YCbX5Q3yci33kQJ7djWABJNU1Qxj5nHUIHR0FaK5RLMdkQZmDOddEMrf+Ca7M0p6MhY5RnPwzoZMoMiNGmdgSxzgumhETGdlyl12PixXf94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ke222AXTqrTClTf/w8WeLvLJCSxtDToLNdsIDOM7suv9e6xByEjrITNScrjcW42XYmd2Grbqd1M3OAc91wi5oGtuJnob7JrFPpQVu4W8eGlXcLzfJzZaEGhL1JcDeZaD1Z2ptZFe1b3JcQBphb7mZ8Oiaiyu2G+T/l/AqePyOWo= Received: by 10.115.14.1 with SMTP id r1mr2703988wai.1190909893997; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.16.20 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:18:13 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: My Intro...with a request for help as a bonus. In-Reply-To: <925d17560709270906k4e0cf6c6nca654087dc2da3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <200709262152.54117.phma@phma.optus.nu> <00b101c80122$5da0e340$e18e6d0a@Starlight> <00b201c80127$907f6700$e18e6d0a@Starlight> <925d17560709270906k4e0cf6c6nca654087dc2da3@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5446 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 890 On 9/27/07, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On 9/27/07, Marjorie Scherf wrote: > > > > Also, I think CLL recommends {vy.bu} to name the alien letter 'w'. > > Yes. > > ... > > However, it is at times unfortunate that > > it is illegal in fu'ivla because I was trying to make one for kazoo, and > > zgikrkazu sounds a little strange to someone used to hearing kazoo with the > > stress on the first of those two syllables. > > You can make it {zgikrkazu'u} if you want to keep the original stress. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes This is the beginners mailing list. A lot of beginners will usually talk about letters and characters, but that is a discussion which we will have with them in English. I don't think very many beginners are going to speak in Lojban to describe unused characters. It sounds like a good topic to take up on the main mailing list. -Eppcott