Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IVmAV-0006mo-Qh for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:43:40 -0700 Received: from web27711.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.177.245]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IVmAC-0006lk-T3 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:43:26 -0700 Received: (qmail 50411 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Sep 2007 10:42:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=0/p373+7APYdAl/XtCies/Kv3rbv9EuP4Wi9uQxSir0EsRD9TRboqDjJjQ8MQylyq76oAISoWzOVMLn0sZCK86W3l9Ku285yb6EZ2Ca8XVPCduFtxj0mOTL/DV7XiUUXTa4y5fPXFf+t3Myajm/TWBGlI80RHV9ulYOEjEXzA0Q=; X-YMail-OSG: UNF.KIEVM1koKPpYiA7Q_gVtSz31rwWOZrAwuJe.NQ_jKhJOH94VoS0YzXkLBhmLQINEfpXuSwvXTv.dyBwu1Ev3v2KkWHtz87_aFkbDFYP_1l32WYJDvfwpXXI- Received: from [130.239.156.94] by web27711.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:42:54 CEST Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:42:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Isen hand Subject: [lojban-beginners] lei and loi To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Message-ID: <528816.49835.qm@web27711.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5429 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: isenhand@yahoo.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 668 Hi, I’m slowly working my way through “lojban for Beginners” and I have a question about lei and loi from page 34. From what I have understood you use lei and loi for groups with out specifying the number. That fits in with the example given of “loi nanmu cu bevri le pipno” but then the next example “lei pano ninmu cu cinba mi” has a number in it. From my understanding it should be “lei ninmu cu cinba mi”. Have I misunderstood? Thanks. Andrew ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html