Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Id6qw-0003k5-V6 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:13:39 -0700 Received: from anno.name ([81.169.186.62] helo=mail.anno.name) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Id6qu-0003jq-4V for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:13:38 -0700 Received: from [IPv6:2001:6f8:900:853::2] (cl-2132.ham-01.de.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:6f8:900:853::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.anno.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E754C3A9E for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 18:13:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4703BFA9.3050302@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:13:29 +0200 From: Timo Paulssen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070808) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] coi (was: s'oi) References: <9a9f96400710021809t6c9cf403wd5a21c8243c053fb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9a9f96400710021809t6c9cf403wd5a21c8243c053fb@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=21E90840 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF927FB9F0C9C947F1EA7785E" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5460 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1726 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF927FB9F0C9C947F1EA7785E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom Sturgeon wrote: > s'oi coi fi'i > mihe t'omys mi'e timos > That is about the extent of my lojban. don't worry, the beginnings of lojban can be easily grasped if you're not as lazy as me. > I am wondering if so many questions are malformed or rendered > meaningless from a logical positivism standpoint due to the limitations= > of the language. i don't understand? > I hope that learning lojban will help me organize some of my thinking, > both in lojban and English. it might give you a different perspective on english, at least it did that for me :) ---- there are, however, a few fundamental flaws in your knowledge of lojban: first: it's not s'oi, it's coi and the c makes a sound similar to the one most english "sh"'s do. second: the ' can only occur between vocals, so your cmene should be tomys not t'omys. it also completely replaces h, so it's mi'e not mihe. if you find the time you should definitly have a look at the #lojban irc channel on the freenode network! hope to see you there - Timo --------------enigF927FB9F0C9C947F1EA7785E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHA7+pus6NTCHpCEARAtwOAJ9OHUDWHJLEp8jOVExXrkmWnST0ewCdFrMp oNsHusn/gB7iH6d4GN95wKQ= =V91/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF927FB9F0C9C947F1EA7785E--