Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IkDcK-0004Xu-UW for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:51:57 -0700 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.184]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IkDcI-0004XK-HR for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:51:56 -0700 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i10so2362505mue for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:51:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=fENQNvUaIElt76vd+RbBNN5AbOIaOFpma4ZjCe63q88=; b=HxbjzQtUNq1QJSewFxWT6khx7Ww7ovtglziunXVhUp1+DvLgOQpg7XPdnH4Fd+eQwBt/96Z1vloA5lLZb90sh92es+ZQ/prNo84Z5XrGAupNrsQShCutYKA7X5I9eK+ulfUlOl366MPWHjc7QfxpzRGfXhaNVR5fOI102LRY6gU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=lmdLWyiVhHwr+mabvMsl4kQ2iN3wCJPyjOY+jtaL/UaFBxNX0c3WvXjGDQvXenIXecGfylrW3K3QkgLJK5/d11g0u8dbHNnuJArOQeKuGmsMyWFArl0WfGgAj7wlRKC4PiYJQb63blSbo1g0txV4Rt8zc3O8eFIjluxpHphcut8= Received: by 10.86.80.5 with SMTP id d5mr4479563fgb.1193122312141; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.27.5 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6ee9d0ca0710222351q7547a487q41a4e89b31ab2f30@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:51:52 -0400 From: "John Daigle" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] learning to climb on floors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1856_18135768.1193122312132" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5527 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: johnpdaigle@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 2578 ------=_Part_1856_18135768.1193122312132 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello to the mailing list. mi'e djan. I have just started writing my blog in lojban. I thought it would be a good idea to write about what my son does, because he does very simple things. I'm thinking of creating a few kid's books in lojban. It turns out to be hard to keep it simple! Even a sentence like "Connor is learning to crawl" is difficult. For a kid's book, I would stick to "Connor is crawling." Anyway, for today, this is what I wrote: la kan,r. cilre cpare le loldi .i le cpare be le loldi cu frili .ui .i la kan,r. cilre sanli. .i le sanli. cu nandu .oi This is what I meant to say: Connor is learning to crawl (lit. Connor is climbing on floors in a learning way). Crawling is easy! Connor is learning to stand. Standing is hard! Perhaps someone could tell me what I actually said? And perhaps how to say what I wanted to say? Note: I'm trying to stick to the gismu as much as possible. The gismu cpare is listed as climb/clamber/creep/crawl, but the lojban translator sticks to "climb-er(s)". What is the correct usage? -- John Daigle ------=_Part_1856_18135768.1193122312132 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello to the mailing list. mi'e djan.

I have just started writing my blog in lojban. I thought it would be a good idea to write about what my son does, because he does very simple things. I'm thinking of creating a few kid's books in lojban. It turns out to be hard to keep it simple! Even a sentence like "Connor is learning to crawl" is difficult. For a kid's book, I would stick to "Connor is crawling."

Anyway, for today, this is what I wrote:

la kan,r. cilre cpare le loldi .i le cpare be le loldi cu frili .ui .i la kan,r. cilre sanli. .i le sanli. cu nandu .oi

This is what I meant to say:

Connor is learning to crawl (lit. Connor is climbing on floors in a learning way). Crawling is easy! Connor is learning to stand. Standing is hard!

Perhaps someone could tell me what I actually said? And perhaps how to say what I wanted to say? Note: I'm trying to stick to the gismu as much as possible.

The gismu cpare is listed as climb/clamber/creep/crawl, but the lojban translator sticks to "climb-er(s)". What is the correct usage?

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John Daigle ------=_Part_1856_18135768.1193122312132--