Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ifugs-0001DE-K0 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:51:04 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.180]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IfugS-0001C9-RM for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:50:44 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so927966pyi for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:50:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=EnVqjGkNnxRDzlErKy/T+ENz/TSQMTa6pPJWbXCppEc=; b=YzM6zA2vRc9w+SsxB4cYMzdygB2APbE0BWuxkiggZx+/7KG3PlgwRGfqYT6PcHuODKOVmR+syIon2ZEMmxDm4FzuA08HW/LBD0uusimTl9TGm39SQDKtkFg/taf1Gf254va/ij8yl3bcgi8mBDA5OnIDbbFSfetlBOT1JOBaGxU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=K4AAYkS+KivJZs257/StndRkZ48k8QJweIow/LOmajMy7usKMo3oDPg1l/Bb8cAXQPtqWlSpgSsZEv9T4mVHqocAv4Wx6wbqiIsDhObOdT9fT9H1xg0pLKZAWfmtI5HdgwSqDTLC6SGiwi5+tMGnhKdGrdtcXqoXpkylZrdXj4k= Received: by 10.65.61.5 with SMTP id o5mr3654248qbk.1192096206226; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.156.11 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <71550650710110250g10bc02c3y5892e00cdc6c07de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:50:06 +0200 From: "Yoav Nir" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] yet more beginner questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_63444_14345155.1192096206221" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5476 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: yoav.nir@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 3005 ------=_Part_63444_14345155.1192096206221 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi. I'm new to studying lojban, and am working my way through "Lojban for beginners" I have a few questions already. First, is how to spell my name. I know the English spelling doesn't give a lot of clues (it's a Hebrew name). It's pronounced as two syllables, the first is like "Yo" in yonder, the second "av" as in the first syllable of "avril" in Spanish. I'm guessing that ioav won't cut it because of the three consecutive vowels, so should it be io,av. Also am I supposed to capitalize the second syllable (io,AV) to show where the stress is every time, or is that optional? Second, I've read that lojban names have to end in a consonant, so if they don't, we add one. My question is, do we pronounce the 's' in la meiris ? Third, I've seen that the apostrophe is used to make an 'h' sound, whereas the h character is not used. Why is that? Why didn't the inventors of lojban (or does it date back to loglan?) simply use an h for the h sound? That's it for now. I'm sure I'll have more questions as I go on. mi'e io,AV ------=_Part_63444_14345155.1192096206221 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi.

I'm new to studying lojban, and am working my way through "Lojban for beginners"

I have a few questions already.

First, is how to spell my name. I know the English spelling doesn't give a lot of clues (it's a Hebrew name). It's pronounced as two syllables, the first is like "Yo" in yonder, the second "av" as in the first syllable of "avril" in Spanish. I'm guessing that ioav won't cut it because of the three consecutive vowels, so should it be io,av. Also am I supposed to capitalize the second syllable (io,AV) to show where the stress is every time, or is that optional?

Second, I've read that lojban names have to end in a consonant, so if they don't, we add one.  My question is, do we pronounce the 's' in la meiris ?

Third, I've seen that  the apostrophe is used to make an 'h' sound, whereas the h character is not used.  Why is that?  Why didn't the inventors of lojban (or does it date back to loglan?) simply use an h for the h sound?

That's it for now.  I'm sure I'll have more questions as I go on.

mi'e io,AV

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