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It also didn't hurt that they were part of an ideological group (zionism)
that focused on returning to the roots (living in Israel). Adding a return
to Hebrew seemed natural.
It also didn't hurt that as children, they had to learn some Hebrew (enough
to read the bible and the prayers). They may have liked it as much as
American students would love mandatory latin lessons, but they still had
this prior knowledge, and a whole bunch of books to read in ancient Hebrew.

On 10/24/07, Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
>
> > When Ben Yehuda created the modern Hebrew partially constructed
> > language the way that language came to life was by gathering people
> > willing to speak it together.
>
> It didn't hurt that the people speaking the language already had a
> shared culture, and the shared ancient Hebrew literature.  These
> communities of common interest also lived together to start with, and
> had social pressures from outside to motivate their common association.
>
>

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It also didn&#39;t hurt that they were part of an ideological group (zionism) that focused on returning to the roots (living in Israel). Adding a return to Hebrew seemed natural.<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div>It also didn&#39;t hurt that as children, they had to learn some Hebrew (enough to read the bible and the prayers). They may have liked it as much as American students would love mandatory latin lessons, but they still had this prior knowledge, and a whole bunch of books to read in ancient Hebrew.
<br><div><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/24/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Robert LeChevalier</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:lojbab@lojban.org">lojbab@lojban.org</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
&gt; When Ben Yehuda created the modern Hebrew partially constructed<br>&gt; language the way that language came to life was by gathering people<br>&gt; willing to speak it together.<br><br>It didn&#39;t hurt that the people speaking the language already had a
<br>shared culture, and the shared ancient Hebrew literature.&nbsp;&nbsp;These<br>communities of common interest also lived together to start with, and<br>had social pressures from outside to motivate their common association.<br><br>
</blockquote></div></div></div>

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