Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Il7j8-0007PT-PQ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:46:43 -0700 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.232]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Il7j5-0007PI-Js for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:46:42 -0700 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so605777nze for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:46:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xFqwh0SoVliIScqUS6SMS1KS7KpTfiwH59t3Kra8CQs=; b=evyeDfCEOSgewYdEd/QVmku4Qtq0FBVzt+aUr7ZiJiT8/0osx/l8r5hyiLBGag5ZEGJNeXKyzOpz1tqhK+97d07FqVxHt+k1Agfz+acbOfQSrKSqNrdsFKsyHoNc+4At2zrYuic5X36goeUKwknHcIUX6BpWyxbDUNGEQhZky60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=V3krVNhywQEg67KSCEB2yOLEyoWcKI1vhu2qQUvHjwF6oBTdT9ywz0V3PZK+fvqxTR2okgTGI9eZKr+JatQmHerY3alSvckkhw/nT6mI9OhckN372QEzTR+VVd0ycKw4qHin/x+JZVOG5/I83ouhNb3+NBh+F1t9TI7cqsGKzHE= Received: by 10.142.99.21 with SMTP id w21mr701747wfb.1193337996792; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.107.8 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <975a94850710251146g2f1cb00eka98d0ec87c02ae3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:46:36 -0700 From: "Joel Shellman" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: geodesic dome In-Reply-To: <4720DEC4.3040806@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <821531.97363.qm@web27709.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <2204fa080710250218g1d01c396gc2cffe2594094d0a@mail.gmail.com> <47209CB8.8070703@lojban.org> <975a94850710250956t2cd0e855ncce7c1681ff719e2@mail.gmail.com> <4720DEC4.3040806@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5628 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jshellman@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1338 > > I would think one of the wonderful benefits of lojban is that you can > > do this--create a word that is very precise in what you mean. Granted, > > that would mean an enormous vocabulary, thus my question--can someone > > decompose a word they've never seen before and most likely understand > > what it should mean? > > I would say that there are many who could get the approximate meaning. > Getting a place structure identical to that which the originator might > have intended is a bit harder, especially without several places filled in. Could you explain what you mean about getting the place structure identical--what do you mean? Looking at: rekyboldi'u for example, are there multiple ways that can be decomposed? Or do the rules preclude that? Hmmm... considering I just went to: http://www.lojban.org/jboski/index.php.en (had to do a workaround to make it work--doesn't seem to work as-is) put in rekyboldi'u and it gives: frame-ish-sphere-ish-building(s) It seems that if a program could determine what it means than that answers my question, that decomposition is deterministic? If so, besides being way cool, that should resolve any concern about having too large a vocabulary--so long as you know the roots and the rules, you have a good chance of at least getting the concept that is trying to be conveyed.