Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IlXqm-0001cv-KZ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:40:22 -0700 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.191]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IlXqi-0001cA-1I for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:40:18 -0700 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i10so1569129mue for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:40:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=uhvfd/f9CDsUpKqLDOMQ04ODncBX0R6rEelUdjiGx8Y=; b=HzOKQTK7hAnS8fPN4cL8NbXdVvxIC/6eWPy7pIQSF1DdHRmOA67lixCewgNMvwlckl0o+3bZeivCqgrAzJ0xXE2CYn4wDxlhrgZAkBP999vrrOeuIdgAnOOVoUwYbdjsH4N+AGWyrlVi2suxMB2FotlG4Qtw8p3ZZ2v/YQJ0ipQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VcECvzDKF5qmerp7+TCFrrX723G5xvMUV2v/EfcrP0c+pqABREiOgEDO3Oslj8+n49Y64MjfF0dKjXVKZnMrqF0sIjhS8Ie3dQ23HqPqNbYHfQjwcoliEFPO8gQZo9wY+dNiY8GH8OX0nSLdcevDnTUZ+TCf3A2i29lkXPGzD+0= Received: by 10.82.182.1 with SMTP id e1mr6910191buf.1193438409971; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.113.2 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2204fa080710261540kc3ccbf0w941a16f0cfd78ca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:40:09 -0500 From: "Jared Angell" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: geodesic dome In-Reply-To: <200710261832.41499.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9214_29010172.1193438409967" References: <821531.97363.qm@web27709.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <975a94850710261310y7e2586d4p60cc69af7881a9f8@mail.gmail.com> <2204fa080710261503ue4df8cbnab58026306087816@mail.gmail.com> <200710261832.41499.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5695 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: angell.jared@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 4002 ------=_Part_9214_29010172.1193438409967 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ok, I must have been misinformed or forgot...I read about the algorithm before I really got into this. But my point stands. On 10/26/07, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Friday 26 October 2007 18:03, Jared Angell wrote: > > Alternatively perhaps Lojban should not have been made in this way. > > Perhaps using Esperanto, English, Latin, Japanese or perhaps a mixture > of > > them all to get root (irrespective of how difficult it would have made > some > > word formation to say the human mind tends to fix these things with > > ::shutter:: irregularities - which are going to happen in Lojban if > people > > actually ever get around to speaking it in large masses) words would > have > > been better than using a really cool computer algorithm that derived > root > > from the most widely spoken languages (HOW IN THE HELL DID HINDI GET > LEFT > > OFF THAT LIST, BTW????). > > It didn't. Hindi and Urdu were counted together. > > The six languages (not necessarily in order) are English, Chinese, > Hindi/Urdu, > Russian, Spanish, and Arabic. Some Spanish words with "ue" were used with > "o" > instead (es:puerta=pt:porta=fr:porte), and most of the Chinese "o"s were > used > as "e". > > Pierre > > > > -- Jared "There is no emotion, there is peace; there is no ignorance, there is knowledge; there is no passion, there is serenity; there is no death, there is the Universe" "Work smart when you can and hard if you must" "When a system is corrupt then it's time for a reformat" "Open Source: The light side of computing. It's never too late to join" ------=_Part_9214_29010172.1193438409967 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ok, I must have been misinformed or forgot...I read about the algorithm before I really got into this.

But my point stands.

On 10/26/07, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Friday 26 October 2007 18:03, Jared Angell wrote:
> Alternatively perhaps Lojban should not have been made in this way.
> Perhaps using Esperanto, English, Latin, Japanese or perhaps a mixture of
> them all to get root (irrespective of how difficult it would have made some
> word formation to say the human mind tends to fix these things with
> ::shutter:: irregularities - which are going to happen in Lojban if people
> actually ever get around to speaking it in large masses) words would have
> been better than using a really cool computer algorithm that derived root
> from the most widely spoken languages (HOW IN THE HELL DID HINDI GET LEFT
> OFF THAT LIST, BTW????).

It didn't. Hindi and Urdu were counted together.

The six languages (not necessarily in order) are English, Chinese, Hindi/Urdu,
Russian, Spanish, and Arabic. Some Spanish words with "ue" were used with "o"
instead (es:puerta=pt:porta=fr:porte), and most of the Chinese "o"s were used
as "e".

Pierre






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Jared

"There is no emotion, there is peace;  there is no ignorance, there is knowledge;  there is no passion, there is serenity;  there is no death, there is the Universe"

"Work smart when you can and hard if you must"

"When a system is corrupt then it's time for a reformat"

"Open Source: The light side of computing.  It's never too late to join" ------=_Part_9214_29010172.1193438409967--