Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IraLF-0000Le-Ux for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:32:46 -0800 Received: from anno.name ([81.169.186.62] helo=mail.anno.name) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IraLD-0000LA-2C for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:32:45 -0800 Received: from [192.168.178.20] (p5085FE4E.dip.t-dialin.net [80.133.254.78]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.anno.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACB583A49 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:32:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47386403.5070102@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:32:35 +0100 From: Timo Paulssen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070808) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: UI2 & UI3 References: <20071112024654.5ktfafi2sg0wc080@webmail.ixkey.info> In-Reply-To: <20071112024654.5ktfafi2sg0wc080@webmail.ixkey.info> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=21E90840 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4A3422420C20373200F8CF22" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 2 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5806 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1525 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4A3422420C20373200F8CF22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mungojelly@ixkey.info wrote: > coi ro do .ui >=20 > I just got the clue that the UI2 (pe'i/se'o/etc) and UI3 (mu'a/la'a/etc= ) > are some sort of UI! They bind to the thing to their left, then, eh? >=20 > .i mi pu viska lo nu ko'a za'a la djan. ti'e tavla > I saw ko'a talking to someone who I heard was John. >=20 > So I can say "ko'a za'a" I observed that it was ko'a and also "la djan.= > ti'e" I know through hearsay that it was John. Right? That doesn't really work the way you think it does. your nu-internal sentence actually translates to "someone (i observe) is talking to john, I hear". That's the case, because za'a or ti'e don't remove the word/construct they follow from the selbri. You could just leave out the ko'a and attach the za'a to tavla, I suppose that would work :) > mi'e bret. mi'e timos --------------enig4A3422420C20373200F8CF22 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHOGQDus6NTCHpCEARAl51AJ9NIhOQziAj8FVV9ItSm/zb0F0dcwCdHgsB zj+bkq4fMk/y2pt+tQ4k5Sk= =QeGP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4A3422420C20373200F8CF22--