Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J55lK-00039P-ED for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:43:30 -0800 Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.170.188] helo=rn-out-0102.google.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J55lD-000393-1A for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:43:30 -0800 Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i24so1307649rng.19 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:43:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=LR0Wo3EoHBkM7n1M76LMdR05UInIlbU47JoT2QgXV20=; b=tCnX0MCI+BoGsnna/rXmiZ6gwezh1pD82xEN7Ll1v5Ri+jWp92ByB4SVrQ5jrlC8SqvIlLJmzxtu3jY7FYVDKrcesWCehnO+Nw+gdsAbZu6yDYbav8wn9J7AeSRhthYKId76nlCTdF9C1+BfZaony1A9kh/i5pe1aVjOX4GlJH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dxiBzcqLB5p1eD1wsmJeaI3yjd+cA/vYBEh66Mzo3uOMoNKYMsJpaakXQix40SERKQVdkvrDHq8erZDssvV2tcAFrPvQzCa57XTwV61wE8skCXKaE8tYzd415lmtCSijpTb9bAd6uZEtSCLYU4uGk9xT/xL9lP+Kw7zKnM9tMNw= Received: by 10.142.217.17 with SMTP id p17mr3021105wfg.99.1198096992483; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:43:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.99.19 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:43:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2f91285f0712191243o11189844tffd81d3912892e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:43:12 +0100 From: "Vid Sintef" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "animal right" In-Reply-To: <47693907.2010308@perpetuum-immobile.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0712190717q75bbf0c7s30ab2f26c227e532@mail.gmail.com> <47693907.2010308@perpetuum-immobile.de> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5865 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: picos.picos@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 469 > how about lo se zifre be lo danlu? > - Timo A few months ago I added an incomplete Lojban wiki article on animal rights, titled "dalzifri'a". The original English article seemed to be focusing rather on the idea of human involvement in the cause of animal liberation, so I chose "rinka" as the tertau, modified by "danlu zifre". But now I realize it's not so much correct since the x2 and not x1 of "zifre" is more likely to be the object of the cause. - Vid