Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JBd7a-0004lZ-UZ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:33:31 -0800 Received: from dsl081-066-183.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.66.183] helo=pinfu.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JBcgI-0001ls-Db for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:05:28 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by pinfu.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JBWvn-0005XN-9r for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 06:56:55 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so3651304fga.0 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 06:46:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=gVGXtVJDL0IMoSQrDrh1mHy4uQilsKH3YLgg5v3yzWc=; b=xXkr/bMKMIsKAn5x1C5EHO3aZjsqHYxlohGrSoAi9tSL1oUgJd9eZqYb/Nfn7PA1fttftkxX/b167sYAWoeP0KnBMK5zJrTcqndvOK7IMQY4lA4qkq0lZ3Oaete78gQHy0FU1fEJhrh+tZcy8RUejYtmCBxdPIPVzrmyXwRRU84= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=a7D2O/l8nGft7LAXbV5HkilFFKxdkdzipz0RwzI00BLB8EAqsv0hZ2g28nasr0qsYCluLGdOUL2K5EsoepJrkCju5GBgiG9OOvAHYWjrXq1mfrSbx17mbEbLgH0MzHFV/GUSrnrzFvPwIWXHEGjt/+bFH+kw4Z9cRxWL87hEm4U= Received: by 10.86.62.3 with SMTP id k3mr19013772fga.73.1199626843566; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.1.11 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 05:40:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560801060540s530d3344k15fa1cfb1c4b2169@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:40:43 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: towns and countries In-Reply-To: <47805B0F.8060809@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2027931199527204@webmail39.yandex.ru> <477FACE6.4050704@lojban.org> <200801051624.52813.phma@phma.optus.nu> <47805B0F.8060809@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.7 X-Spam-Score-Int: 7 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 175 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1055 On Jan 6, 2008 1:37 AM, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > > According to the syllabication rules which Jorge and I have been discussing, > > which we don't agree on but which we agree on about this word, {mozgvas} and > > {moskfas} are invalid, because a syllable can neither end with "zg" or "sk" > > nor begin with "gv" or "kf". > > There is no official restriction that I know of, and changes in the > morphology are not part of the byfy charter at this point. The official rules on morphology are self-contradictory in parts and incomplete, so what's needed is not so much a change as a consistent and complete definition. In any case, my current position (though it fluctuates) is towards "anything goes" for cmevla, but with a division of cmevla into two classes, one fully lojbanized that only contains syllables that are possible in lujvo and the other for the rest. Names that don't belong to the fully lojbanized class will retain a foreign flavour even if accepted as valid Lojban. mu'o mi'e xorxes