Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JFGVl-0001gg-1s for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:13:29 -0800 Received: from michael.checkpoint.com ([194.29.32.68]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JFGVd-0001gO-D8 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:13:28 -0800 Received: from [172.31.21.125] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by michael.checkpoint.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m0GMDOP8008602 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:13:24 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: From: Yoav Nir To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <478E7FDA.7010605@perpetuum-immobile.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: preferred words/definitions in jbovlaste Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:13:13 +0200 References: <478E7FDA.7010605@perpetuum-immobile.de> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 12 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 259 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: yoav.nir@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1350 On Jan 17, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Timo Paulssen wrote: > Yoav Nir schrieb: >> coi rodo >> jbovlaste has a distinction between "preferred only" valsi and >> "all" valsi. There are, for example, 339 preferred works starting >> with 'c' but 598 words in general that start with 'c'. >> I have two questions: >> 1. What is the difference. > > I think, that it's not "preferred words", but rather "preferred > definitions", as you can have multiple definitions in - for example > - english for a valsi, but using votes by the jbovlaste users, the > most fitting definition/translation is selected. > >> 2. The XML export seems to export only the preferred words. How can >> I get an export of all words? > > If my assumption is right, then that wouldn't make much sense. At > least if you want to use the XML exported data for a dictionary or > lookup program. > I can only guess, but probably the code for XML export is based on > the code for the dictionary export, in which case it's the only > sensible thing to do to filter out non-preferred words. > - Timo I thought so, but the "all" words don't contain duplicates. For example, the word {ckupau} is in "all" words, with a good definition, but it doesn't appear at all in the preferred words. I think generating a dictionary without all these words makes it limited.