Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:42:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JFqYA-0004Ke-5d for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:42:22 -0800 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JFqY5-0004KD-GN for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:42:21 -0800 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id d.d6a.1965338b (39332) for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:42:06 -0500 (EST) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:42:05 EST Subject: [lojban-beginners] names ending in 's' To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d6a.1965338b.34c1f89d_boundary" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.8 X-Spam-Score-Int: 8 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 274 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 3563 --part1_d6a.1965338b.34c1f89d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/17/2008 4:22:31 AM Central Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > I also would like to say in reference to the matter of having to end > names on a consonant, that there appears to be a strong (if informal & > optional) tradition here in Lojbanistan of using "s" as the default > consonant [ka'u] for vowel-ending names. It's my feeling that to a > Lojbanic ear, an "s" at the end of a name sounds special, because we > know it often has that origin. My handle for many years has been > Mungojelly (part of my Discordian holy name "Pope Salmon the Lesser > Mungojelly"), which is Lojbanized as "la mungodjelis." I'm happy to > accept my "s", and to participate in this Lojbanic tradition [.o'a]. > (I would like to hear what the origin of it is, if anyone knows?) > > mu'o mi'e la mungodjelis. no'u la bret. > But ending a name with 's' is only a tradition. My own Lojban name is stevon, because my regular internet name "stevo" is directly related to Esperanto, and 'n' is a regular consonant ending in that language, marking the accusative case, so it is a grammatical form in both Esperanto and Lojban. mu'o mi'e stevon --part1_d6a.1965338b.34c1f89d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 1/17/2008 4:22:31 AM Cent= ral Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes:

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accept my "s", and to participate in this Lojbanic tradition [.o'a]. &nb= sp;
(I would like to hear what the origin of it is, if anyone knows?)

mu'o mi'e la mungodjelis. no'u la bret.

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mu'o mi'e stevon --part1_d6a.1965338b.34c1f89d_boundary--