Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 26 May 2008 11:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K0hWe-00009Z-0h for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:34:28 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K0hWY-00008p-0o for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:34:27 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o29so4782ugd.28 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:34:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ubdoKf3j7wQGXOM14X7Gd5X5IuG1XKTUCvpWQLWisYg=; b=i+0w6B3cWS9xuZe10fxKu7LJ8GOHKLPO2JixScXGOdMN8loYp0DgxTP6o/TlKZ9N3Vh5Ti5N1sXDLh2K9ip0tq6UMVnFdmVCt49wpVYM+GbZLoBlPl/gO+NBYCYANM8VHgx8i8TUMA7hUcYzmsOZaXou8AbZDYeS/uJYYv5LMJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nAL1fYHjy5+dPdNh8dipbu5Co0ZRz4UG0+f8yyIKTmDNd9+3Ymfzd94wQgai8kA3iFTBWB3fBK0lfk3qsNXopa0lgixIcsTVG+HT+BMjb17xGhQDe2PsL2ft1stELBrz3R2BVBVsZd8L2Fkqeg4VxuVhg2Wt9+h6kuBr5Wo+YPo= Received: by 10.115.90.1 with SMTP id s1mr336226wal.51.1211826849557; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.136.19 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2f91285f0805261134j8415e0fle47a8ca2e3808ef0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:34:09 +0200 From: "Vid Sintef" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Yitzik asks his first questions In-Reply-To: <200805261326.35031.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <119C0B344EF0448ABD8F47C56483A7E5@Cohen2> <200805260710.33691.phma@phma.optus.nu> <19989B49539344FEAECAB833E0C29DC0@Cohen2> <200805261326.35031.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 600 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: picos.picos@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 475 On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > For "upon", how about {ne'aga'u}? > > mu'omi'e .pier. Would that distinguish "upon" from "above"? sfani ne'aga'u le jubme Would this mean exclusively that a fly is upon the table? Here's an alternative: sfani re'oga'u le jubme >From this I can more clearly imagine a fly being upon the surface of the table and not flying above it (which can be desribed with {ga'u} alone). mu'o mi'e tijlan