Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KCmqz-0001sT-K0 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:41:25 -0700 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.168]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KCmqs-0001sE-Fz for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:41:25 -0700 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so1092344wfg.25 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:41:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=/I6x+iTbVr+4nTtFjEHQP2gV8R4vGr1FvmUBAF2trxs=; b=VP2ZjpIDoGrJFZCKP4Rj54YSzsF00xoQ+xPgSHo9GlGM0XrPqg5WH8KK6MXbOFb5Ed L+K8rNPBf8WSNmcXx4j5MyRYyUdVqY5T4cXqwk4NWYvzWo1JJfVRW8kSaur4fgxTBiLg 4cbkyZ/GUhvmh3B9feoOqV2CLwIxoPBB+1mlE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=QAXPFR0RMKWGnkFtlQmT9Gc1ECEQibEI/3A/hV8xXWWQxqX9R3ZiS/HYbGYzAx2cfH ptHKAbK0o4pv8jAyNQyI+koUPbz/lRP1Fzb+rr+nAxh1QVhnu/3HCJwAfy7Rz/mDDXCr Tlzbw+fSWRn2vYeODGpd+/GW5L5QXZIyvne/Y= Received: by 10.142.173.14 with SMTP id v14mr1201601wfe.257.1214707277578; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.50.21 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f30806281941u76166d1fka128ea064874c681@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:41:17 -0500 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] gusni MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 656 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 829 i abu facki le du'u abu zvati lo clani je dziseldru kumfa noi se gusni fi lo se linji noi dandu le drudi I'm having a hard time understanding how *exactly* this works out. When I read this I find myself asking "a line of what"? But of course, the x2 place of linji is attached to the x1 of gusni, so that's already, at least partly, established. I'm wanting to change this, I think, to {noi se gusni fi lo linji be loi gusni be'o noi dandu le drudi}, or perhaps {loi tergusmi'i}. I know this would be more explicit, but I can't tell if the orignal is explicit enough, and this would be pedantic, or if this would be an improvement. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet)