Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:43:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LWstI-0000U9-IE for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:43:08 -0800 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LWstE-0000Tf-Rp for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:43:08 -0800 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090210134257.PPMR8858.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@chausie> for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:42:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F882E60 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:42:56 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: numbers Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:42:53 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902100842.54506.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1319 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 923 On Tuesday 10 February 2009 06:45:35 Roman Salmin wrote: > Hi all, > > Let me introduce myself first. My name is Roman Salmin I live in Russia my > profession is physicist and I have interest in programming languages also. > I began to study lojban for my own amusement and in hope for "better > world" recently. Now I am only at chapter 5 in "Lojban for beginners". > > Now is a question: Is it correct to say something like "li feidau" for > number 120? (11*10 + 10) in decimal numeration? No. It's grammatically correct, as are such phrases as "pa pi pai ra'e ro", but isn't a proper number unless the base is at least 12. It's like "eleventy-seven" or "capítulo diecisiete, versículo diecionce" (the latter is my mishearing of a Bible citation which is actually two verses, 10 and 11). Can you figure out what number "cira'epi" is? It is valid, but in a kind of mathematics you may not know about. Pierre