Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LXjUx-0001xj-RC for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:53:31 -0800 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LXjUu-0001xN-Pn for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:53:31 -0800 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so565093yxi.46 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:53:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z9BwfolCUwTKaLszc8kbxY/TkMUxargco51hJHa3/oE=; b=BGYDPW67HHrBH6d4yVspbR1hb/juHZh7AcIRHWDCnalFxayDdGBSlrN5WyC0NKp9zW XC2v8xoBLHtwdXAmXAvb6ludxmuf0W+yJ6tgQz8iFPA25737aoYzOsWo7yog0n+Vrqj8 EmA/6WXS5R6dB7sZ+TwfX7zSWUujs7IhSuDvM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qMEGyHg7EnkTOURQU8b1rrUACnVrfslQ8X/0iFmNaCJ62EtwHdmpow1L/3x/P/e5RM xMzkid3gdpWWAZDWNnlALpTpDsx8IIUdy2QKiNBxpcnEyCP84Dx0q3pCrAjKotnM+hXQ 1kXuotf4aLABeTNAW3+QhkLuk+ACda9FPgdUg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.41.9 with SMTP id o9mr1793917ano.49.1234475601036; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:53:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <70697fa40902121333p4aea0e8bv51575a6aecd32851@mail.gmail.com> References: <70697fa40902110700p7ae4ecbayb745dfcd3d23fc14@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560902110858k48c606b5lba9dbed3837674d2@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930902110936x66517534wd32957811484f30b@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560902110949o1b53c320k7cbf56c8b7eff4a2@mail.gmail.com> <70697fa40902121333p4aea0e8bv51575a6aecd32851@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:53:20 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560902121353g13486565p48be472852c517f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: UI & gismu From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1333 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1257 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:33 PM, J Y wrote: > >>> o'o renvi > >> xendo > > I don't understand this stika. > Is it " patience is goodness " ? More like "kindness". This is what I had for o'o/o'ocu'i/o'onai in : .o'o (UI1) Attitudinal. Used to express patience / forbearance / leniency / benevolence / indulgence / magnanimity. (cf. xendo, de'acni) .o'o ko za'u re'u troci Ok, try again. .o'o cu'i (UI*1) Attitudinal. Used to express tolerance / open-mindedness / moderation / fairness / reasonableness / mildness (cf. racli, to'ersteba) .o'o cu'i ma pu mukti fi do So, what drove you to do it? .o'o nai (UI*1) Attitudinal. Used to express anger / annoyance / exasperation / fury / rage / impatience / indignation / irascibility / irritation / outrage / vexation / wrath / ire / intolerance. (cf. fengu) .o'o nai lo xanto cu fanta lo nu mi pagre Damn, the elephants are blocking my way! > > Here are still some: > > zo'o ? se xalbo > re'e lijda > ro'a krinu jikca > ro'e menli > ro'i cinmo > ro'o rinka xadni (contrast with "menli") > ro'u cinse mu'o mi'e xorxes