From: Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: pro-selbri ?
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:09:13 -0500
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On Tuesday 24 February 2009 12:47:37 J Y wrote:
> { go'i } repeats the last bridi. Does it only refer to the whole bridi
> ? Or can it refer to the selbri ? Or to the selbri tanru ?
>
> e.g.  You said " mi clira klama le zarci fu le karce "
> and I want to say that you do come early, but not by car;
> or that you do come by car , but late;
> or that you do come early , but here is not a shop;
> or that I do the same thing , from my house;
> or that I also come early to the shop , but by boat;
> or that I also come , but late......and so on
>
> Seems not having any pro-selbri or extended pro-selbri to abbreviate
> the speaking. I could think out something just as
>
> go'i fu na'e le karce ( le xe go'i na karce )  ;  go'i ji'a fa mi  .......
>
> Is it ok?

Yes. {go'i} repeats the bridi, but any sumti can be replaced. If you want to 
replace "early" with "late", though, you have to restate the selbri. {mi 
lerci go'i} would mean "I come early late". {ra'o} updates the pronoun {mi} 
to refer to yourself, without having to say {mi} again. It's longer than 
{mi}, but if you have several occurrences of {mi} and {do}, it's shorter.

-mi nelci lo kapsiku
-go'i
-I like chili peppers.
-Yes you do.

-mi nelci lo kapsiku
-go'i ra'o
-I like chili peppers.
-So do I.

Pierre