Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:47:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lc1Ne-0002Mm-NC for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:47:42 -0800 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.171]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lc1Na-0002MQ-8V for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:47:42 -0800 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so2945066wfg.25 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:47:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R0ufB4dcnTBhI5qnxgPNhlkukH/9faFR3JbaYH6hGkk=; b=F7j2GkEr0NlToz/6HlBrY7ng0VY+/K+9cEsIHDl5dlvPRTuSEQgMj3o3DV1S05oy1w k+Z37QqlveytIPOxjcY/eWQmzfC8wXSzn9WB+PnuXeUm6VPCI+58SumynVc2Irhpz9t7 1TQEnG/WSQbe/hfVbhLm+4kRj0wSHm+jIEvEk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=cXmK3LR0rEohrfaJcbrXLww/WqEi9T/skV5Nn2vcesrJZtrWg23fex3Gb6JpaMzHGu WlyLn91pfCb+XgXR9+dcr5rg7yzwvuZkoZ0FikywfoULyTTEKhdkvh1h/D9Yqh17jQ0Q Hndj3hWT/0SQU/AxE1yX1tL75ZA2hQbvBnZh0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.13.13 with SMTP id 13mr2635868wfm.280.1235497657488; Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:47:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:47:37 +0800 Message-ID: <70697fa40902240947p65ebf26ai4bc0299cf1a18dcd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] pro-selbri ? From: J Y To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1358 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: kkm2019@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 704 { go'i } repeats the last bridi. Does it only refer to the whole bridi ? Or can it refer to the selbri ? Or to the selbri tanru ? e.g. You said " mi clira klama le zarci fu le karce " and I want to say that you do come early, but not by car; or that you do come by car , but late; or that you do come early , but here is not a shop; or that I do the same thing , from my house; or that I also come early to the shop , but by boat; or that I also come , but late......and so on Seems not having any pro-selbri or extended pro-selbri to abbreviate the speaking. I could think out something just as go'i fu na'e le karce ( le xe go'i na karce ) ; go'i ji'a fa mi ....... Is it ok? mu'o mi'e zo'e