Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LjNsx-0007Nq-4D for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:14:27 -0700 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.155]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LjNsu-0007Nc-4U for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:14:27 -0700 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so2197533ywq.46 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:14:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eZlBVEPOb4DB9CB/cHeTWY+l46gMe6rx04GA+prZQ5I=; b=DvwHATobScSBYvu6Bl92VhOdtJdimdnajpfWWEyuqSvlsLKIibo4FA2YChC4UYfeM7 NP9FPPrG1a98/UM8W2yCyycjz485nIX8HO4zC57Zwk9akT6WkA9KNo8g4oLFfhLuJ1yI PdK0HS8T3v8zG+VeVArz36En2MeSuwuO/1Wlw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=c6VgPT/0tLYPoEyrffd6AeuKICdkj6hh8andPAEkr8Nv2Py+vrpdgeRJTorxa8twMs cOatCwaC8+F92bvx6rdjC2j7L/QqHGOOaEacX7GTzgobZNYQFG1JL5q6X7OC5QPltPxl NG7diZIXiVbj8J3wHkPT0ra5GRrn9BfD4xZw4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.97.147 with SMTP id l19mr1826044vcn.8.1237252462179; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:14:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090316233250.GD13005@digitalkingdom.org> References: <5715b9300903110611q53c9e2cdu20a218642d2a7219@mail.gmail.com> <20090316140827.5989D826F64@synx.us.to> <5715b9300903160710x55fb2181o8e65f7c8153df5be@mail.gmail.com> <20090316233250.GD13005@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:14:22 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300903161814h978ee07wbe2167b84fe77351@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64617c481779604654649b6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1429 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 8520 --0016e64617c481779604654649b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hmmm.... just how *would* one say "for fuck's sake"? ... mu'i lo nu la gletu kanro or maybe something like ".oisai ko gletu mi tu'i lo kerlo" would be more in the spirit of the phrase. - Luke Bergen On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > Oh *for fuck's sake*. I'm getting them at the bounce address; I had > no idea it was coming to the list. > > Unfortunately, there *are* no synx.us.to addresses subscribed. I've > put all addresses with "synx" in them on vacation; hopefully that'll > fix it. > > -Robin > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:10:50AM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote: > > is anybody else getting these? > > > > - Luke Bergen > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Mail Delivery System < > > MAILER-DAEMON@synx.us.to> wrote: > > > > > This is the mail system at host synx.us.to. > > > > > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > > > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > > > > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > > > > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > > > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > > > > > The mail system > > > > > > (expanded from ): temporary > failure. > > > Command output: connect: No such file or directory > > > > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; synx@synx.us.to > > > Original-Recipient: rfc822;lists@synx.us.to< > rfc822%3Blists@synx.us.to > > > > Action: failed > > > Status: 4.3.0 > > > Diagnostic-Code: x-unix; connect: No such file or directory > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: Luke Bergen > > > To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org > > > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:11:39 -0400 > > > Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: vreta > > > I see. So like most things lojban, you can't count on the "approximate > > > english equivalent" to be at all regular or normal. eg. "___ing = nu > ____" > > > is not always (or even usually) a good generalization. > > > > > > - Luke Bergen > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Pierre Abbat > wrote: > > > > > >> On Tuesday 10 March 2009 18:17:28 Minimiscience wrote: > > >> > The problem is that, in English, the present participle of a verb > (the > > >> form > > >> > used, among other places, in the progressive form, e.g., "Zoe is > > >> ____ing") > > >> > is the same as the gerund (the form used in a noun phrase > corresponding > > >> to > > >> > Lojban "{nu}"). > > >> > > >> A few centuries ago, they weren't: the participle ended in "-ind". In > > >> German > > >> they end in "-end" and "-ung". > > >> > > >> Pierre > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/*** > http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > --0016e64617c481779604654649b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmmm.... just how would one say "for fuck's sake"?
=
... mu'i lo nu la gletu kanro

or maybe something like "= .oisai ko gletu mi tu'i lo kerlo" would be more in the spirit of t= he phrase.

- Luke Bergen


On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Robin L= ee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
Oh *for fuck's sake*. =A0I'm getting them at the bounce address; I = had
no idea it was coming to the list.

Unfortunately, there *are* no synx.us.to addresses subscribed. =A0I've
put all addresses with "synx" in them on vacation; hopefully that= 'll
fix it.

-Robin

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:10:50AM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote:
> is anybody else getting these?
>
> - Luke Bergen
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Mail Delivery System <
> MAILER-DAEMON@synx.us.to> wrote:
>
> > This is the mail system at host synx.us.to.
> >
> > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.<= br> > >
> > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
> >
> > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> > delete your own text from the attached returned message.
> >
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The mail system
> >
> > <synx@synx.us.to> (e= xpanded from <lists@synx.us.to&g= t;): temporary failure.
> > =A0 =A0Command output: connect: No such file or directory
> >
> > Final-Recipient: rfc822; synx@= synx.us.to
> > Original-Recipient: rfc822;lists@synx.us.to <rfc822%3Blists@synx.us.to>
> > Action: failed
> > Status: 4.3.0
> > Diagnostic-Code: x-unix; connect: No such file or directory
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Luke Bergen <lu= keabergen@gmail.com>
> > To: lojban-beginne= rs@lojban.org
> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:11:39 -0400
> > Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: vreta
> > I see. =A0So like most things lojban, you can't count on the = "approximate
> > english equivalent" to be at all regular or normal. =A0eg. &= quot;___ing =3D nu ____"
> > is not always (or even usually) a good generalization.
> >
> > - Luke Bergen
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday 10 March 2009 18:17:28 Minimiscience wrote:
> >> > The problem is that, in English, the present participle = of a verb (the
> >> form
> >> > used, among other places, in the progressive form, e.g.,= "Zoe is
> >> ____ing")
> >> > is the same as the gerund (the form used in a noun phras= e corresponding
> >> to
> >> > Lojban "{nu}").
> >>
> >> A few centuries ago, they weren't: the participle ended i= n "-ind". In
> >> German
> >> they end in "-end" and "-ung".
> >>
> >> Pierre
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

--
They say: =A0"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons.&= quot;
And I'm thinking: =A0"Does it even occur to you to try for somethi= ng
other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre
ht= tp://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/




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