Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk6ul-0007lB-9D for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:19:19 -0700 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lk6ui-0007kf-8v for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:19:19 -0700 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id d.bbc.3f053233 (39330) for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:19:05 -0400 (EDT) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:19:05 EDT Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Preliminary chapter 1 for Lojban learners To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bbc.3f053233.36f2f789_boundary" X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.8 X-Spam-Score-Int: 8 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1453 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 2150 --part1_bbc.3f053233.36f2f789_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/18/2009 09:00:29 Eastern Daylight Time, mturniansky@gmail.com writes: > Unlike cmavo, stress may in fact be the only difference > in cmevla between two differently named things. If I have one friend > named BArux, and another name baRUX, I can distinguish them in speech > by use of stress, and I can distinguish them in writing by use of > capitals. And if I don't choose to use the capitals, then the refgram > says it's the former, not the latter, that I must be talking about. > Neither English nor Hebrew marks the stress in Baruch. Lojban isn't as ambiguous about its word stress as those two, but writing the name in both cases as "barux" doesn't seem wrong to me. And as xorxes pointed out, they're still grammatically the same word. stevo --part1_bbc.3f053233.36f2f789_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message=20= dated 3/18/2009 09:00:29 Eastern Daylight Time, mturniansky@gmail.com writes= :


Unlike cmavo, stress may in= fact be the only difference
in cmevla  between two differently named things.  If I have on= e friend
named BArux, and another name baRUX, I can distinguish them in speech
by use of stress, and I can distinguish them in writing by use of
capitals.  And if I don't choose to use the capitals, then the refg= ram
says it's the former, not the latter, that I must be talking about.


Neither English nor Hebrew marks the stress in Baruch.  Lojban isn'= t as ambiguous about its word stress as those two, but writing the name in b= oth cases as "barux" doesn't seem wrong to me.  
And as xorxes pointed out, they're still grammatically the same word.

stevo --part1_bbc.3f053233.36f2f789_boundary--