Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lordk-00073u-K7 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:01:24 -0700 Received: from mail-qy0-f122.google.com ([209.85.221.122]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lordi-00073A-9z for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:01:24 -0700 Received: by qyk28 with SMTP id 28so478971qyk.28 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:01:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=GRAdpNHPRLDe0MlL4GX0IL74p/8oaWIIDtdQCQa+3fg=; b=MMOvHKTDiqzYMxLn3h1d7QwS6hsZjafzfxumtNHWtX51w0DdtU18y+BUlI264BCGk2 1zDmW1670YDCPC7J4cZjQk5GXzOa4sv/2BuDlI/Fjz8laCnw0GCp7McndM0RN68JDYab yzVOfzFsNqXMQNhLXqCREEkzt2foQ+fXYNcKE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DskkUdZ7tl0jh1sAbmQL0es4TSjtw5IQN/9/fmNauzMD56QTZ5pWB4IhWdLL8Njccj /ymnCwm3L6+vJtQIP97fXWRby/CEnD0SA+ls+upZVniYEDOjUv+CunM3uY5qLD8DpUi2 XMcc90BJm4FK/zJ7Q8yoYzE0r3KMQOZEEjEjE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.85.1 with SMTP id m1mr2900666vcl.46.1238558476185; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 00:01:16 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300903312101y8a22955vc5b7bed6e52e9ae6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] la'e di'u From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64e9caa01b1980466765e73 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1460 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1084 --0016e64e9caa01b1980466765e73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So the definition of "la'e" is "the referent of (indirect pointer);". This seems like a very fuzzy kind of idea. If I say "mi gleki lo nu do pu klama lo zarci" in the next utterance will "la'e di'u" refer to my happiness, me, or the event of "do pu klama lo zarci"? Would the listener just have to pick this sort of thing up from context? - Luke Bergen --0016e64e9caa01b1980466765e73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So the definition of "la'e" is "the referent of (indirec= t pointer);".=A0 This seems like a very fuzzy kind of idea.=A0 If I sa= y "mi gleki lo nu do pu klama lo zarci" in the next utterance wil= l "la'e di'u" refer to my happiness, me, or the event of = "do pu klama lo zarci"?=A0 Would the listener just have to pick t= his sort of thing up from context?

- Luke Bergen
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