Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LfG82-0000u3-Se for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:08:58 -0800 Received: from mail-qy0-f107.google.com ([209.85.221.107]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LfG7z-0000so-Ow for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:08:58 -0800 Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so87757qyk.28 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:08:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jkAEeFiZGlb1JNgZsdsbsfQh4MBtGy9REZ9wsIcVZuo=; b=q7L2Peq5GW2bFgfan99GN0MNBraw054aE6LHbBi/IEjSL5q/aCOk/T08Y8fCps+RIc uhYUUs/bXSmWKVmU4PPcXptccvl8al3irVYUwkUTopoRh4dSt2b/IEVELRZmnwbME/M9 qX8lkei2rpGvZppVAhYVRWc/pB6fw2xuWSmhE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=n8fXtHpXJDXArMq4kjl46AB+AYyFMWkD6gF4a4+nwLP4m2J1soXGLzSPzkxo+us6nb f8LMp8rYNeTCgSRa/NMkbY+UCBymeV4G/Pwdhydco5XzX4MZfer8coaftJcXK+vhsazZ 6RFFPmb27OkwrtJHs5SyIQ01A3FgMRSxg+aL0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.73.134 with SMTP id q6mr1136464qcj.76.1236269324234; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:08:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <12d58c160903050757v392fb65di29e53199c3ac3414@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300903050615o2b121b4j3d872ca6545d1da@mail.gmail.com> <12d58c160903050757v392fb65di29e53199c3ac3414@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:08:40 -0500 Message-ID: <5715b9300903050808k7891af9bt51170da8df68c75d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: difference between di'o and tu'i From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636426e25eb6b5304646161d0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1394 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 3853 --001636426e25eb6b5304646161d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ahh, thank you. So for instance, "where is the bathroom" might be "ma tu'i lo vimku'a" while "where is the book" would probably be "ma se di'o lo cukta". Am I right? - Luke Bergen On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:57 AM, komfo,amonan wrote: > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > > Based on the lojban dictionary I don't quite get the subtle difference > > between di'o and tu'i. Can anyone expound on this for me? > > > > di'o BAI at the locus of diklo modal, > > 1st place at the locus of ... > > tu'i BAI associated with site stuzi modal, > > 1st place (used to situate letters) associated with site ... ; label > with > > location > > > > It seems like they are similar but I don't really know what the exact > > definition of "locus" is anyway so maybe they're completely different. > > > > If you wanted to say "where is John?" would you use di'o, tu'i, or > something > > completely different? > > > > - Luke Bergen > > They are similar indeed. This issue was discussed in a thread about a > year ago: < http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-beginners/msg05823.html > > > > "Where is John?" -- { la djan. zvati ma } > > mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan > > > > --001636426e25eb6b5304646161d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ahh, thank you.=A0 So for instance, "where is the bathroom" might= be "ma tu'i lo vimku'a" while "where is the book&qu= ot; would probably be "ma se di'o lo cukta".=A0 Am I right?
- Luke Bergen


On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:57 AM, komfo,a= monan <komfoa= monan@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Luke Berg= en <lukeabergen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
> Based on the lojban dictionary I don't quite get the subtle differ= ence
> between di'o and tu'i.=A0 Can anyone expound on this for me? >
> di'o=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 BAI=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 at the locus of=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 diklo mo= dal,
> 1st place=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 at the locus of ...
> tu'i=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 BAI=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 associated with site=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 stuzi modal,
> 1st place (used to situate letters)=A0 associated with site ... ; labe= l with
> location
>
> It seems like they are similar but I don't really know what the ex= act
> definition of "locus" is anyway so maybe they're complet= ely different.
>
> If you wanted to say "where is John?" would you use di'o= , tu'i, or something
> completely different?
>
> - Luke Bergen

They are similar indeed. This issue was discussed in a thread a= bout a
year ago: < http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-beginners/m= sg05823.html
>

"Where is John?" -- { la djan. zvati ma }

mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan




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