Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lp5EW-0005iR-TI for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:32:16 -0700 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.155]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lp5EU-0005i8-H0 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:32:16 -0700 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so118399ywm.46 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:32:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kzuTrKLC1hx1xVpAJrTCFIb8ZCmntD8tk7bnnejh5+8=; b=gqLcUL4oDN4E/QrrK8rhyhZZQIJxQIKb4A3+6b3agqyJ4pwE2h4x4TI55J7n3C+dR+ 2MnzX51NPJY+DPzZTfr0Mm/2mu2HjqRg/yUed6duJDnacJcCuCKMGxshSh7pRFP6fARq SRTCJR8QOIPZ0AIlT7/FJHUl46NdQ1ClT75a8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GF+IFWsif4b6CyvqiOQ7tCVZ1w0Xo3XsXiPUqI5/GSX8W6Xd54UAqrRcv1G2IZt+DF xoHZaN6F+ypfuDFyJmPNMFShJH8ZuL1rXgk6fzdLkXLps7q1Uutx74mdJGbZ2RzY08o9 cs4x8T6G6oTgqajrfvNtPENxq1Fi100p/MxwA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.150.13 with SMTP id c13mr2109370ybo.174.1238610733417; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:32:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:32:13 -0400 Message-ID: <96f789a60904011132p6f6cea5fw607fae992e1dbf34@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: la'e di'u From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1466 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1127 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:51 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 4/1/2009 13:39:48 Eastern Daylight Time, > mturniansky@gmail.com writes: > > > la jon na zanfri lo nu rokci cpare (or "cpare lo rokci" to be more > precise) .iku'i jy  (NOT "la jy". "jy" is already a sumti by itself, > "J") zukte lo se go'i > >  Let's go through this step by step: > la jon <-- x1 of "nelci" > na <-- "not",  negates the whole bridi > zanfri <-- "enjoys" > lo nu cpare lo rokci <- "rock climbing", the x2 of zanfri > .i  <-- sentence break > jy <-- "J", the x1 of zukte, refers back to "la jon" > zukte <-- "does act" > lo se go'i <-- the x2 of the previous bridi, which is now the x2 of > this sentence > >           --gejyspa > > > You left out "ku'i" after ".i".  How does that fit in? > Sorry, that was an oversight. "ku'i" is in the UI family, meaning, grammatically, it affects nothing. It can be freely inserted anywhere. On a semantic level, it means "however", and scopes over the word it follows. Since it follows the ".i" its effect is the the whole sentence. --gejyspa