Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LuqnG-00089x-LP for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:19:59 -0700 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.155]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LuqnD-00089j-EK for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:19:58 -0700 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so686078yxn.46 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:19:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Uy8kUwfyI5/+5bQxAzN8x33IhlKoZEkl9TNy2K2XDxA=; b=NzR92s2izglp50K4bzM/D3XbBPmMyfWj1/tK5fthLCJbcs2m2hwAFgdyUice3dBcqH lmFb1ZbG+nu3ZsScvYfwC4RGJnwJqPo7oSV+amJt2U6PhTys7brSV/EDlMFBnmRv/aCO jA0P9hhQ5IESOXpt3elMmHWGFlaWenmvyA868= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=lvrk99eQT+Z93ag02qlJVa4DLB2mzvWfdA9asJxIV/zfG6R6MBvXKqaJXrHimiz1ss dKhIYDigQ/xHeoa7LoX4LhebIx0RJ1H95QrXdAXlNup9df5j7GysGwvR3YlYnMHOng54 wczlVYLM88fhDtetoQZcSV/MCLk+oD1H7pdoI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.10.15 with SMTP id 15mr4070354anj.6.1239985194268; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:19:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5715b9300904170833q1210b85ep14244505484b8444@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3930904170755t415ec77byc42e8417e7764b3f@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300904170833q1210b85ep14244505484b8444@mail.gmail.com> From: Robert Rhine Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:19:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: du & mintu To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64652fa07fd720467c28d19 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: So do you mean that du is "The same as" while mintu means "not different then"? That is, mathematically speaking, 1 plus or minus 1 is not different then 2 plus or minus 0.1, but not the same, while 1 is the same as 10^0. So, using the previous statements, are "one plus or minus one" mintu "two plus or minus 0.1" and 1 du 10^0 proper uses of the words? [...] Content analysis details: (-2.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [scX-archive-position: 1542 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rrhine@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 2967 --0016e64652fa07fd720467c28d19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So do you mean that du is "The same as" while mintu means "not different then"? That is, mathematically speaking, 1 plus or minus 1 is not different then 2 plus or minus 0.1, but not the same, while 1 is the same as 10^0. So, using the previous statements, are "one plus or minus one" mintu "two plus or minus 0.1" and 1 du 10^0 proper uses of the words? Thanks, Robbie On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > from what I understand "du" is more like the mathematical "=". It's saying > that x1 IS x2 while mintu only means that the two objects are the same. If > you're a programmer it would be like the difference between: > x = "hello" > y = "hello" > z = x; > > x du z > but x mintu y > > - Luke Bergen > > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM, tijlan wrote: > >> How is "mintu" different from "du"? >> >> mu'o se ckire mi'e tijlan >> >> >> >> > --0016e64652fa07fd720467c28d19 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So do you mean that du is "The same as" while mintu means &q= uot;not different then"? That is, mathematically speaking, 1 plus or m= inus 1 is not different then 2 plus or minus 0.1, but not the same, while 1= is the same as 10^0.=A0So, using the previous statements, are=A0"one = plus or minus one" mintu "two plus or minus 0.1" and 1 du 10= ^0 proper uses of the words?
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Thanks,
Robbie

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gm= ail.com> wrote:
from what I understand "du&= quot; is more like the mathematical "=3D".=A0 It's saying tha= t x1 IS x2 while mintu only means that the two objects are the same.=A0 If = you're a programmer it would be like the difference between:
x =3D "hello"
y =3D "hello"
z =3D x;

x du = z
but x mintu y

- Luke Berg= en
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM, tijlan <pascal.akihiko@gmail.com> wrote:
How is "mintu&q= uot; different from "du"?

mu'o se ckire mi'e tijla= n





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