Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 13 May 2009 17:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M4OzJ-0008Hk-KL for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:39:54 -0700 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M4OzF-0008Gu-L2 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 13 May 2009 17:39:53 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n4E0diVx028104 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 00:39:44 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n4E0di9E028202 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 00:39:44 GMT Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:39:44 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: CCVCCCCV Message-ID: <20090514003943.GA29600@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <4de8c3930905131658t2a349af9w17ba5be09144571f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930905131658t2a349af9w17ba5be09144571f@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-archive-position: 1656 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 661 de'i li 14 pi'e 05 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. tijlan .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > Is a fu'ivla of form "CCVCCCCV" valid? I couldn't find it on the "nice > fu'ivla forms" list. .skamyxatra As far as I understand the morphology, yes, it is valid, as long as the other rules for {fu'ivla} are followed (e.g., that first CC must be an initial consonant pair). Except when {rafsi fu'ivla} come into play, no {brivla} that contains four consonants in a row can ever be a {lujvo}, a {gismu}, or a combination of {lujvo}, {gismu}, and/or {cmavo}, nor can it ever fail the {slinku'i} test. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- li'a .e'i ca vondei .i mi na'e pu'i kufra loi vondei