Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 18 May 2009 09:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M6697-0001li-0Q for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 18 May 2009 09:57:01 -0700 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.156]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M6692-0001kY-7v for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 18 May 2009 09:57:00 -0700 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 36so10481708yxh.46 for ; Mon, 18 May 2009 09:56:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=L7TQ6ARk4tyv4mVlK/+AvIpP5PX/P+pFh0aEyZNntWo=; b=Cr52/91rZEWSYwFnt1XT91nttJIe+1dLA8p8JqxEMdC0pawkJdrfXopzJy5K9MpEku CosQewjia3wQuwYUZNEi9cQeQyB3IDv8YXnH633zJquhCaWXszDoKvMFPyrHuOt833qm 0/JWoZZoqCRi2YNV91lbWzz0cn+WmvwIGJgG0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n01J47Ecj7WiduDsAlVoTHDZhzPI8iloVq+MwIwV4xrictlWRa910s4l3ssM3ILNH2 DKALaZp4rW/U1cqNj8KWfcUkrVALUrr78z9SM4mQ0G6aicW6spu+4gS2VH3Q1FpJVS6O J5D109lJ/N3fiyvetNQc5CyfjnRJ5djxleL+c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.83.2 with SMTP id k2mr9735187ybl.337.1242665814284; Mon, 18 May 2009 09:56:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <925d17560905151012u5cf2f186ob70bd89191609300@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3930905150216n6be2a0a2mcf06cab38dbe54d6@mail.gmail.com> <20090515155454.GA28981@sdf.lonestar.org> <925d17560905151012u5cf2f186ob70bd89191609300@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:56:54 -0400 Message-ID: <96f789a60905180956x3cce8570ud4745419e185ff6a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: sides From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 1682 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 832 2009/5/15 Jorge Llambías : > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Minimiscience wrote: >> There's no general FAhA for "side," but a number of them come close.  Looking >> at the list, I see: >> >>  {ne'a} - next to, approximating > > = fi'o se jibni > >>  {re'o} - adjacent to, touching, contacting > > = fi'o se lamji > >>  {te'e} - bordering, edged by, edging up to > > =fi'o se korbi > >>  {zo'a} - tangential to, passing by > > =fi'o se noryragve > fi'o constructions create modals (BAI) not tenses (FAhA). Although they are related semantically, they are not the same. In particular, you say te'e=fi'o se korbi. But fi'o se korbi=se koi. does te'e=se koi? (still waiting for a cmavo for fi'o cpana and fi'o kansa, myself...) --gejyspa