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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: do NU broda
From: Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:10 AM, tijlan<jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For this reason, I don't see much of a difference between "do" and
> "tu'a do" in the aforementioned case. Both can be the x1 of "za'i
> melbi" or "zu'o melbi", pe'i.


It's of course prefectly natural in Lojban to address absolutely
anything, so it's trivial for "do" to mean "lo za'i melbi" and it's
most certainly the case if you've just said "doi za'i melbi".

doi nu jbota'a kei mi gleki do
O event of speaking Lojban, I'm happy about you.

I'm not sure whether "za'i melbi" is a valid description in Lojban of
a "remna" or even of a "prenu" or a "pruxi", but I don't think that
matters, because I think when we address each other in Lojban we are
free to address each other from any perspective.  We can address each
other as animals, or as people, or we can speak to the states and
processes that make up someone's ongoing unfolding.

doi pu'u la .tijlan. jmive do'u do pu'u melbi
O process of Tijlan living, you are a process of beauty.

As to whether a "remna" or a "prenu" can be a state or a process, that
may be more a philosophical than linguistic issue.  I'm inclined
personally to the view that any object considered at a point of time
is a state, considered over its existence is an event, and considered
in the midst of its interactions is a process.


mu'o mi'e la stela selckiku