From: Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: shidgerrrrrkari
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:44:43 -0400
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On Tuesday 16 June 2009 09:30:24 tijlan wrote:
> In LFB 12, the r-hyphen in "cidjrkari" is claimed to be "a syllable on
> its own, and the word should sound something like shidgerrrrrkari".
> But, according to CLL, "l/m/n/r" can be either syllabic or
> non-syllabic. Isn't LFB's description a bit misleading?

I can't say "cidjrkari" without making the "r" syllabic. Maybe a Kartuli 
could. On the other hand, "paxrmari" (bain-marie, double boiler) I say in 
three syllables "paxr,ma,ri", because I pronounce the "xr" simultaneously 
(but not "rx"). "spatrxapio" (celery) I pronounce in three 
syllables "spatr,xa,pio"; all of my first three languages have a "tr" blend, 
though they're different because the r's are different (I use the Spanish 
one, though in Spanish it doesn't occur at the end of a syllable).

Pierre