Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MITGj-0000qp-GS for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:04:01 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f207.google.com ([209.85.217.207]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MITGf-0000pw-1g for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:04:01 -0700 Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so12013600gxk.10 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:03:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3qRh7BlPHhL6STxuuHtXC54ToLP+OTNYk0xK/kg/bdQ=; b=pmjsr0Zo2kshT0WraPuOXTCVZ//i3ArCZZXGXsHgbPyAbMqT99YTnxGs6Xj3bQXfZ8 Wo8+TFwiUJSrp3smFxeFVmE/4RIfRKXrdc7nP1ZqpIpDxok+Lx32tTy1DzV07G9EeS3o Q1pmmn8WaIyn2Qf8lIwB9IVulGp6E9sK8u1y8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Gejw2G/GlJZDfQi+vrdu3kPizuJzENLXVhEphjbbPm+793IZOx1Po7hO8oUf1WEdWS hJBQciCCGgAMMWu5de3qYt8q/3R/ApT4g32kdBMkurIoAOJLdJLVoJo1uM0veWkHMqT6 zTboqwfuK05luQtUNuLd7PPmWWu3/PjnUiiW4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.120.17 with SMTP id s17mr261243agc.109.1245614630860; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:03:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930906210448k23fe719btcbb2bfb170964903@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3930906210448k23fe719btcbb2bfb170964903@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:03:50 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560906211303u7d8706b6s4ee51a8d7cfd5070@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: left-branching NOI From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1860 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 533 On 6/21/09, tijlan wrote: > > But what if the head is a pronoun/prosumti, as in "you who are > different from others"? For left-branching languages, this is to bring > the NOI clause before "do". Is that possible? If you add a quantifier, yes: lo noi frica lo drata ku'o pa(/su'o/ro) do >Perhaps: > > FA NOI [ke'a] fe lo drata cu frica ku'o do > > ? The problem is that not all sumti can have a FA or a tag in front, so even if that were allowed that wouldn't take care of all cases. mu'o mi'e xorxes