Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MIs7c-0003r6-Dz for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:36:16 -0700 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.156]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MIs7Z-0003qR-AT for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:36:16 -0700 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so12745478ywm.46 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:36:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1H5l1pxixYB9dOWnqNhpojo/XDbw1yXDavyLTZxNexs=; b=VJr/0GBuLnYaGOw0ocgSF1hBaHliwHez0UtkPxfEK6gsWEG6M2uOoTF2RxXW+cUXCi R0N9iGS4Tl/PcS0KYumohe5RYqBFB2MfnixOsp5Zg9kwyypNHBeme/VMHnyH09WepAU/ RG8DCHC6SOeZYeY81YUpVR/Yr458v1MkGJFHs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JFPG5qLOLaHL+FBIijSR9VdzfeS7ZfUrz4eS6LB08sRQCO+v32n92zSUbSyWboMUxJ gFTqJnF7+5a6mbrbzoFRyWZ8tvw6jej+puxFfdiiJu0+J7zr4wUXuPwylf6f46pLXVAp z4PkVO2+vZsmFd71Q+vpKTJ6luI1JpRO3AXsA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.29.13 with SMTP id c13mr3410120agc.117.1245710172156; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:36:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <12d58c160906221232t2a57fb61s489fad425a0f8c1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:36:12 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560906221536w5edea86ds80f7e2ff45d67d1e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Dictionary output From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1871 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 958 On 6/22/09, Johan Pretorius wrote: > > How is it decided which sumti goes in which position? Is this something > that is consciously (arbitrarily) chosen when the lujvo is taken into the > dictionary, or are there rules governing it? There are some guidelines, but not really strict rules. > Also, if I come across a lujvo that I do not know, how can I be sure where > one rafsi ends and another begins, apart from knowing the full list of all > rafsi on the tips of my fingers (surely there are multiple thousands...)? By construction, there is only one way that a lujvo can be split into rafsi. You can always know which rafsi a lujvo consists of, even if you don't recognize any of the rafsi. All you need to know is that rafsi are of one of these forms: CCV, CVC(y), CVV(r), CCVCy, CVCCy, CCVCV, CVCCV. The last two can only appear at the end of the lujvo, and the last rafsi of the lujvo must end in a V. mu'o mi'e xorxes