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Subject: [lojban-beginners] xorlo quanitifiers
From: Sam Bader <awesomeegghead@gmail.com>
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coi rodo
mi cnino vi .iki'u mi troci lo nu tavla fo la lojban. .i mi pu tcidu la'o
gy. BPFK Section: gadri Proposed Definitions gy. vi zoi judrysni
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+gadri&bl=yjudrysni
.iki'ubo mi se cfipu tu'a lo te frica be lo ze'o se lairka'e pe zo
lo ge'u bei lo ne'i se lairka'e bei va'o lo nu pa le reboi ly. cu se pilno
.imu'a ma te frica lo'u lo pa pixra le'u lo'u pa lo pixra le'u .e lo'u pa
pixra le'u to ra va mupli toi .ije lo'u mu lo xagji sofybakni le'u mupli lo
ka ce'u selne'i lo ze'o se lairka'e .enai lo ne'i se lairka'e
mu'o mi'e .semiul.

---(just in case)---
Hi all
I'm new here but I'll try to speak Lojban. I was reading the "BPFK Sectino:
gadri Proposed Definitions" here:
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+gadri&bl=ybut
I'm confused about the difference between inner and outer quantifiers
on
"lo" when only one of the two appears.  For example, what is the differece
between "lo pa pixra" and "pa lo pixra"/"pa pixra" ("lo pa pixra..." was an
example there). And "mu lo xagji sofybakni..." is an example that contains
an outer but not an inner quantifier.

[In short, how do you know whether to use an inner or an outer quantifier on
a "lo" sumti?]

-Sam
---(By the way, I am grateful for corrections to my Lojban)---

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coi rodo<br>mi cnino vi .iki&#39;u mi troci lo nu tavla fo la lojban. .i mi=
 pu tcidu la&#39;o gy. BPFK Section: gadri Proposed Definitions gy. vi zoi =
judrysni <a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DBPFK+S=
ection%3A+gadri&amp;bl=3Dy">http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=
=3DBPFK+Section%3A+gadri&amp;bl=3Dy</a> judrysni .iki&#39;ubo mi se cfipu t=
u&#39;a lo te frica be lo ze&#39;o se lairka&#39;e pe zo lo <span style=3D"=
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"></span>ge&#39;u bei lo ne&#39;i se la=
irka&#39;e bei va&#39;o lo nu pa le reboi ly. cu se pilno .imu&#39;a ma te =
frica lo&#39;u lo pa pixra le&#39;u lo&#39;u pa lo pixra le&#39;u .e lo&#39=
;u pa pixra le&#39;u to ra va mupli toi .ije lo&#39;u mu lo xagji sofybakni=
 le&#39;u mupli lo ka ce&#39;u selne&#39;i lo ze&#39;o se lairka&#39;e .ena=
i lo ne&#39;i se lairka&#39;e<br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .semiul.<br><br><span style=3D"font-family: courier new,m=
onospace;">---(just in case)---</span><br>Hi all<br>I&#39;m new here but I&=
#39;ll try to speak Lojban. I was reading the &quot;BPFK Sectino: gadri Pro=
posed Definitions&quot; here: <a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-in=
dex.php?page=3DBPFK+Section%3A+gadri&amp;bl=3Dy">http://www.lojban.org/tiki=
/tiki-index.php?page=3DBPFK+Section%3A+gadri&amp;bl=3Dy</a> but I&#39;m con=
fused about the difference between inner and outer quantifiers on &quot;lo&=
quot; when only one of the two appears.=A0 For example, what is the differe=
ce between &quot;lo pa pixra&quot; and &quot;pa lo pixra&quot;/&quot;pa pix=
ra&quot; (&quot;lo pa pixra...&quot; was an example there). And &quot;mu lo=
 xagji sofybakni...&quot; is an example that contains an outer but not an i=
nner quantifier.<br>
<br>[In short, how do you know whether to use an inner or an outer quantifi=
er on a &quot;lo&quot; sumti?]<br><br>-Sam<br><span style=3D"font-family: c=
ourier new,monospace;">---(By the way, I am grateful for corrections to my =
Lojban)---</span><br>
<br>

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