Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MfHT6-0003CD-1C for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:07:04 -0700 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.150]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MfHT3-0003Ap-61 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:07:03 -0700 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 13so374323eye.58 for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:06:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=g5KXIOGFr12E3OHGRbDsezB8ULOhMoypCb29rVqh+Cs=; b=nR/bK9jOFFfIisWV5Uz2zukTSIHu7TTEni0kwL1S0PRa5pMWmwaV0c1JWQcSL2/+Bx 9iNClMBJBlrvmkQM6rmcGHdf1rlozUgArv/+BHvqOJzger9Bk8OKy3pc2G8pqZQV61gQ 1qA/Ztle+IIPHZO3XMDi0N2Zq7hG4hlb5XAYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P0S+5Gl5O1ClmevQc92yAkgV+wA58OG6gW/VFwc62l+KkeuR4zC0OaUdG9Tk2Wi2GS ugAqtWBUdRWSdTWiCq6YKzUE0LbDVlnSFJYo5wQSMbidmS7wiIpkOOinnVq0S5YMtbl+ gV2+YNMaUesC5QeBoc3u5L5g4SzCZvOWvi5TU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.203 with SMTP id w53mr762056wee.58.1251050819678; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:06:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930908221226n38e5fbf0h1554794765d48876@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090821225617.GA1082@sdf.lonestar.org> <5a3750120908220037l2ea17eb1ue2dc1e3d9ce2cf65@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930908220408g21752c12yd44abd703bae9cc5@mail.gmail.com> <5a3750120908221037u6e49bec7ra8316c82dbbf5c03@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930908221226n38e5fbf0h1554794765d48876@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:06:59 +0300 Message-ID: <5a3750120908231106y5c0e40a1p96f106f9c50cfb61@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "The pen is mightier than the sword." From: Oleksii Melnyk To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: 2009/8/22, tijlan : > .i { lo pinsi } va'o { lo xarci cu vlipa mau lo pinsi } na'e te bridi Shame on me. I'me asking too early: 3 hours after that i've finally understood your opinion. [...] Content analysis details: (0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.1 SUBJECT_FUZZY_PENIS Attempt to obfuscate words in Subject: -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-archive-position: 2096 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lamelnyk@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 698 2009/8/22, tijlan : > .i { lo pinsi } va'o { lo xarci cu vlipa mau lo pinsi } na'e te bridi Shame on me. I'me asking too early: 3 hours after that i've finally understood your opinion. I still can't beleive into "implicit emphasis" on some bridi parts. Let's say we want "pure logical" predicate with several, equally "critical", arguments, not predicted by gismu/lujvo creators. If we have an explicit emphasis on any "kind" of sumti, we'll have a hard time, converting all of them into terbri (or vice versa, sumtcita-izing everything). That's too illogical for a logical language, with such a great amount of easily added "emphasizers" built into it. -- mu'o mi'e lex