Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mk0yR-0003Dn-01 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:30:59 -0700 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mk0yN-0003DA-Pk for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:30:58 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n85JUprP025189 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:30:51 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n85JUp0X009198 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:30:51 GMT Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:30:50 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: let us Message-ID: <20090905193050.GB24817@sdf.lonestar.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org References: <9ada8ecd0909051155s627ec6b9v9a1282326ef54860@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9ada8ecd0909051155s627ec6b9v9a1282326ef54860@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-archive-position: 2200 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 617 de'i li 05 pi'e 09 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Squark Rabinovich .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > What is the *lojban* for: "let's go to eat something"? > The English "let's" or "let us" is a sort of mixture of *ko* and *mi'o* : on > the one hand, it is a suggestion/request/command to do something, on the > other hand it refers to the speaker as well as the listener(s). I would > expect to find a *cmavo* with this meaning, but I didn't. .skamyxatra I would use "{mi'o}" with an appropriate attitudinal, possibly "{.e'u}" (suggestion), "{.au}" (desire), or "{.ai}" (intent). mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- le munje vi smaji