Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlO2v-0007Po-Vk for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:21:18 -0700 Received: from cluster-d.mailcontrol.com ([85.115.60.190]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlO2o-0007JG-OE for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:21:17 -0700 Received: from aeacus.blackpool.gov.uk (aeacus.blackpool.gov.uk [195.188.21.21]) by rly17d.srv.mailcontrol.com (MailControl) with ESMTP id n89EL498012636 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:21:07 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojban for beginners Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:21:07 +0100 Message-ID: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D381BED8380@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojban for beginners Thread-Index: AcoxWDaMhbLuCB6lQN2akFgqzK8kjAAAFAOA From: "Michael Eaton" To: X-Scanned-By: MailControl A-06-00-00 (www.mailcontrol.com) on 10.68.0.127 X-archive-position: 2269 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: michael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1679 This is becoming dangerously close to trolling. Please just drop it. This is not the place for a discussion of this nature. -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org]On Behalf Of Alexandre Dezotti Sent: 09 September 2009 15:15 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojban for beginners People might not be offended by other asking for changes to what they feel as personal work for public use. Publicity implies debate at least. What is demeaning is having always the same examples. It's not diminishing sexism in any way, on the contrary, sexism is a fact of the whole society and not just a personal choice. One cannot just say "well, you could think yourself about some woman carrying a piano", this kind of behaviour just tries to deny the public acceptance and the innate sexism nature of the society. The aim is not making people fuzzy inside, it is rather avoiding to perpetuate the sexism in the minds within our cultural expressions. http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/EmailDisclaimer/ This message has been scanned for inappropriate or malicious content as part of the Council's e-mail and Internet policies. http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/EmailDisclaimer/ This message has been scanned for inappropriate or malicious content as part of the Council's e-mail and Internet policies. ******************************************************************************See the Blackpool You Tube video aimed at attracting French visitors by clicking this link http://www.visitblackpool.com/jetaime ******************************************************************************