Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlUKI-0005sm-M7 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:03:39 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlUKB-0005rv-56 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:03:38 -0700 Received: by ewy12 with SMTP id 12so5511863ewy.0 for ; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:03:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uQE5DmI8Wf8zNAk5OUa0WWUFi0OsVuOZXuOQL/VpSj8=; b=PuJeYKddF/lTIKk/QzI3GBGs/rvPWDnZEC+CbuBW1VUXOkIcnWDiwJfkEc6EMXNX43 NINz7a4jEmGILfToQeXPJanbTcqbLnR8iU1U5YiMHe9t6A9C4in8CIfcBQaEIGho6c8/ lUy5tD1qxNXSV/w7xKCwTklRJqtZLXwjbm0nk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tWqRyJB/HOpPXYlk8ZCjaMou4DBcJbH+A6gkzMvgLWk1grLIshkuEzsIzk4EnfUtd6 QBymlk/V0+7XX4yhpTTjMrNywxJkk+bapjLCaRzDvYrou/EdVtwnPxNAIVr0LoUnXJHw VNKwdWgK9nrl5cJBkTJ9q9MFxjfPj1GIa7G8U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.46.83 with SMTP id q61mr160829web.71.1252530203199; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:03:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9ada8ecd0909091353g5c75c195tae9d36a4212edd99@mail.gmail.com> References: <96f789a60909071000m7efdb840kcb37646a3cd5c7c5@mail.gmail.com> <9ada8ecd0909081255m2215bd02oae0eb2cb8949463e@mail.gmail.com> <12d58c160909081354w350f49d7p195fd2e53959844b@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930909081548i78f90850w68cfcb69aecbf4e7@mail.gmail.com> <9ada8ecd0909091353g5c75c195tae9d36a4212edd99@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 23:03:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: let us From: Ivo Doko To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 2274 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ivo.doko@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 561 2009/9/9 Squark Rabinovich : > The fact it is so in certain natural languages doesn't mean we should do it > this way in lojban ! Well how *should* we do it? Lojban is supposed to be culturally neutral, but it seems that if we decide on saying "let's " either as a first-person plural imperative of the or as something else it's going to end up being culturally biased. To me the concept that "let's " is an imperative form seems completely natural, but it may be only because that's how it is in my native language.