Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mllp6-00050R-K6 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:44:37 -0700 Received: from mail-yw0-f204.google.com ([209.85.211.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mllp1-0004y8-KQ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:44:35 -0700 Received: by ywh42 with SMTP id 42so329905ywh.30 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:44:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=nOiRcnmuhKDOYb/FdsiElWKxizMytxHJ7GCy8pUi+GU=; b=M9ZcdRzi2SISyXnwewMpDuxP/sEba6W5IjkW+raPNlBYeMcYGN1IfE5QNrTkSZHQRu acviViPoaeCk92kQQE3XcZ2eLglPVbgwI1qCtm8hyQxFSQR4yu/8+DfoYHzI6dmpuxds dOyjsNrp3hN3jo89b/SmzZ8GxkM5jMeVF9WcY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NOjnEeOSqZiyUC12QJet/sz+BTZ58q6gV7IvolChylBQyLfi9IeZ8OPXiEzZ6zHvEL vY4QCJqFa9lA+dxWzzy4EClkpL+V3+3au8XqxHKduYXxxU3jhe8NnUdgavXmh0a+cGVM DEJhPttxB4dSzv1pGL2FL/iCvbjFRlj+u0Rfs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.170.2 with SMTP id s2mr2981685ybe.222.1252597464529; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:44:24 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300909100844p3ec611a9hc8ee25e22b68175d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] kecti From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd39c7aeb83e204733b12bf X-archive-position: 2291 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1093 --000e0cd39c7aeb83e204733b12bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why does the x2 of {kecti} need to be a person? Can I not feel pity for a dog? Similarly, though maybe a bit less arguable, does even the x1 need to be a "person"? kecti kec ke'i pity x1 (person) pities/feels sorry for x2 (person) about x3 (abstraction) 4c 23 (cf. cinmo, xendo) --000e0cd39c7aeb83e204733b12bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 V2h5IGRvZXMgdGhlIHgyIG9mIHtrZWN0aX0gbmVlZCB0byBiZSBhIHBlcnNvbj+gIENhbiBJIG5v dCBmZWVsIHBpdHkgZm9yIGEgZG9nP6AgU2ltaWxhcmx5LCB0aG91Z2ggbWF5YmUgYSBiaXQgbGVz cyBhcmd1YWJsZSwgZG9lcyBldmVuIHRoZSB4MSBuZWVkIHRvIGJlIGEgJnF1b3Q7cGVyc29uJnF1 b3Q7Pzxicj48YnI+oGtlY3RpIGtlY6CgoKAga2UmIzM5O2kgcGl0eaCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCg oKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKAgeDEgKHBlcnNvbikgcGl0aWVzL2ZlZWxzIHNvcnJ5IGZvciB4 MiAocGVyc29uKSBhYm91dCB4MyAoYWJzdHJhY3Rpb24poKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCg oKCgIDRjoCAyM6CgoCAoY2YuIGNpbm1vLCB4ZW5kbyk8YnI+Cg== --000e0cd39c7aeb83e204733b12bf--