Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MrTSZ-0000eS-CK for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:20:55 -0700 Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com ([209.85.218.211]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MrTSW-0000dv-FD for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:20:55 -0700 Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so2541344bwz.34 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:20:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jDN3nMGb9mNicXJB8n1uGVBTJlWdYQdpsookHZFL06M=; b=e+91xcSPKMflKxZnjAyVgwQXUHIgyNcYsFpHGzFU0BOsuZ9ZUAV6kB0rBED4T0/9FV vAHdR18vMVG8lBd+fiLEvUAxtTrv4pGAAqZwZbGGef2amE9EykkpOXBEK9LolXgTY5dH ghIyKoCn9I0fxcZk46cANiLRqPR7vWhbPkZkU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Dps2XaWIF+82Cpy1scepzCu0geVU7LzvfMQWNls3zsVcvNILk9ECHbw4MpM/dLiawE cwkIyck96gg49aRUt5vHsuy6O1tHC3/e9LQgYeU3lxZ+DbgdX9TFxKoBn51rdVKQwb62 G+c37MBezGi7S4BUpgDUJ8VZ+RtPQ/uS9ULzs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.6.9 with SMTP id 9mr295817fax.84.1253956845784; Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:20:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200909251733.46864.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <74145aa00909250740s14ae670r4ba0536ea04ccf48@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930909251356x52c4b92cld4571097b2564d62@mail.gmail.com> <200909251733.46864.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:20:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: =?windows-1252?Q?=91There?= is the view from =?windows-1252?Q?here=92?= question From: Ivo Doko To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2416 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ivo.doko@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 353 2009/9/25 Pierre Abbat : > So the sentence > means "The thing on the other side, having something to do with the here view > — you (relation unspecified)". I thought "le jvinu be vi" was x1 of "ragve" and "do" was x3? I'm obviously missing something here. What do I need to do to make "le jvinu be vi" x1 and "do" x3 of "ragve"?