Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MsesD-00079s-56 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:44:17 -0700 Received: from mail-px0-f185.google.com ([209.85.216.185]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mses9-00079T-ND for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:44:16 -0700 Received: by pxi15 with SMTP id 15so5743236pxi.25 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:44:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8biO06681yuZGf1NNGA5UAnoh0wfutB0Ebr0zdkop1I=; b=nGlgr/UjOkkDwUS5ecMb3KcO/LqZ7940UzedTk12IddFBu7shBIhs1NxuMGmaR+rd5 PJZxf0tVSQiFgmnEk77nM+U4jz7Td6C4SZ93wQL3qJ2fZoirJ2zNzuTGVtVFioMaTxDg zfhCrBbbBQrbe9yWw46kzec6sWaQ1406wW37A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L0OnXpVJDrdRCsvJPDlQ17T0B3nVgxoXiUze7+2xdteYARzOB9T3SSzLY8CP8Zly8V pmTazErNxdl7OINYTb5O5H42TfJEV6sU9+J5jgQbzlx8UXL53IDrDyQd8FuG3fmDGC3r yuvNlkkGoqKln5CPn1jJ4Ve/E6jUHmkCWdvvw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.7.40 with SMTP id 40mr368154wfg.120.1254239047914; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:44:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200909291050.05895.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <8ACC341D-55A8-4AE8-BEFA-04CFB310ADE1@choi.name> <200909281309.28016.phma@phma.optus.nu> <96f789a60909290736x1be8fdb8kfaccce0e11fc3770@mail.gmail.com> <200909291050.05895.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:44:07 -0400 Message-ID: <96f789a60909290844s360e820cya517ed5882e915df@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: klama vs. litru From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2426 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1070 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday 29 September 2009 10:36:33 Michael Turniansky wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> > pu le nu tavla le gugdrnubi* ke djini jitro kei la filipos. muvdu la >> > actod. le dargu zi'o >> >>   I don't know what the reference is, but I assume you meant "djine"? >> (it seems that, like me, you probably associate the gismu with the >> Genie of the Ring....) > > I meant "jdini". The reference is Acts 8:39-40. As to "actod", the Greek > says "Azotos", but that occurs somewhere in the Septuagint for "Ashdod". > > Pierre Ah, okay, thanks. Not very familiar with Acts, as you might guess. (Ashdod is translated as "Azotus" in the Douay-Rheims version for all the word's appearances in the Hebrew Bible: Joshua 11:22, 15:46-47, 1 Sam 5:1-7, 6:17, 2 Chron 26:6. Nehemiah 13:23-4, Isa 20:1, Jer. 25:20, Amos 1:8, 3:9, Zeph. 2:4, Zech. 9:6) But even given your reference, wasn't that ba'e ba lo nu tavla? --gejyspa