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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:42:47 -0700
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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Quizlet problems
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Thanks guys,

I appreciate the clarification. Final question, does this edit of the
quiz keep it from being confusing or misleading- or should I further
modify it?

http://quizlet.com/1336771/100-lujvo-and-cmene-part-2-flash-cards/

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/10/30 Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>:
>> On Friday 30 October 2009 08:08:49 tijlan wrote:
>>> A cmene is something that the gadri "la" makes. "la" can be attached
>>> to e.g. "jbobau" or "lojban". So both "la jbobau" and "la lojban" are
>>> cmene. The difference is of course the thing to which the gadri is
>>> attached, i.e. selgadri. "jbobau" has a consonant cluster and ends
>>> with a vowel, that is the definition for brivla. "lojban" ends with a
>>> consonant, that is the definition for cmevla. Both brivla and cmevla
>>> are no cmene without "la".
>>
>> Also you can attach "la" to a phrase, such as "la kolmba sovda stedu" or "la
>> kot.diVUAR". The latter phrase is two cmevla, but one cmene.
>
> If we want, we can also combine brivla and cmevla (or any other valid
> strings of text) into a cmene by means of "zei", where "Queen
> Elizabeth II" would be "la fetnolraitru zei .elizabet. remoi". The
> convention seems to be to use a relative clause (NOI) instead, but i'm
> not sure whether "la .elizabet. noi remoi fetnolraitru" or "la
> .elizabet. noi fetnolraitru remoi" accurately translates "Queen
> Elizabeth II", which does not refer so much to Elizabeth who is a
> second queen as to the second Elizabeth who is a queen.
>
>
> mu'o mi'e tijlan
>
>
>
>


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