Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MtnVF-00076z-Ab for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:09:17 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MtnVB-00076D-Gp for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:09:16 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091002190907043.YEHA26368@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:09:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id C837883F for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:09:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: using 'se' in conversation Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:09:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <7f1d42860910021120n1033c6a3wbef9131c23f2c9a0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7f1d42860910021120n1033c6a3wbef9131c23f2c9a0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200910021509.03428.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 2434 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 352 On Friday 02 October 2009 14:20:02 Ryan Leach wrote: > Are these how I would say the following > 1. What I see is good > 2. I see what is eaten > > 1. le mi se viska cu gleki > 2. mi viska le se citka For 1 I'd say "le se viska be mi cu xamgu". "le mi se viska" means "the seen thing that belongs to me", with no indication of who sees it. Pierre