Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mupqd-0007yh-CN for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:51:40 -0700 Received: from mail-yw0-f189.google.com ([209.85.211.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MupqZ-0007xw-V0 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:51:39 -0700 Received: by ywh27 with SMTP id 27so6730902ywh.2 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YodcbZ9KNCvlGSjXkDXqt61TygDGfGrnI5TqWu7B3AU=; b=e/k8UUFGRT1gX0RwxzxJBpDL6z88dnjbxwP1qy41mSUSxHXSZImPJQ7cGlaeOyhJIl 3YfpPufzGewYh8Ex+5bVzWnexkLfN2Hp3vAwFcLjd60DHojyHN+ZuoPuwy06c8FUzQ1g bEFH+H/Nnf74Zxy8zoQoicutDb15ZoO6L563w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eX9nzt/V77IrBo+n2A9Jiopim8Oq9wB2E3+fnuVwmPhDF33/HgK9X/LXFk2GbghtV6 qCV8xtqNiXvG7V7DWJkRSk0zF0lsixBiC/s1IzC4gKu7SMIoeMnv1r7eUqvflXLZGIsw lwnOqNxXIZSOHE+CwLq9O1QU50nlg5ZleqTQM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.211.6 with SMTP id j6mr67383agg.86.1254757889531; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <925d17560910050827vfff00d5q4dab697a6eaf6d7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f1d42860910021120n1033c6a3wbef9131c23f2c9a0@mail.gmail.com> <27513e550910022003g4c4bb780s8c36f55c805feba0@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60910050447q7f476f89mda57aa07f9ac1607@mail.gmail.com> <27513e550910050545v53b8bcd4x6631ee8ead7c3d72@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930910050749y39643394h182172cd290b3e@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560910050827vfff00d5q4dab697a6eaf6d7f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:51:29 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560910050851v4c4a2b8aq9d543a063aa6858c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: using 'se' in conversation From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2448 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 535 2009/10/5 Jorge Llambías : > One cmavo that has been proposed > by someone else is "poi'i", in selma'o NU: > >  .i lo poi'i mi na nelci cu pu noroi se viska I forgot to add that there is an alternative to that with no new cmavo, and already grammatical: .i lo se ka mi na nelci cu pu noroi se viska "ka" doesn't really have a defined x2 place, so "se ka" could be a bit vague, but I think the most likely candidate for something associated with a property is something with that property. mu'o mi'e xorxes