Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MurZQ-00032l-Of for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:42:01 -0700 Received: from mail-yw0-f195.google.com ([209.85.211.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MurZL-00032B-K9 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:42:00 -0700 Received: by ywh33 with SMTP id 33so2643443ywh.25 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0Zp/bjyVEUrFO7Yri/f2xtCahSScinUQ698p+BoixFk=; b=t8kDEJtXvsq76Bn/AsMFapaBnmD5qY51+Gr+bXLz/FmloqzTqvyUShpQFt7mM3tMOW +uC1WUU+zju+V9RDw1FnSRB5hkV5q0orkh2U47jVoRe5TIO8CXyDwoOeP+gpBeLHAcvX scSa2d7Hglqi2Wrwj87OTfhz6WWXioypA5ToM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N1dB5Jv4oPDl9Pif7uA+PHquH0Cvw1zwh4B9K08GIl+J+bes/VKcRlADgPGot4sRdO riEgTL8dtXnXZOgQBie6V1fH5/dRFzNbwnol5uPXOIgrIQFQiXEtxDxYWwYxIdSYFWsk YPvnmAstKwd1NYgnsz/KG1jdx08YC6II6jmjQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.222.1 with SMTP id u1mr123059agg.103.1254764509288; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200910051304.18485.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <7f1d42860910021120n1033c6a3wbef9131c23f2c9a0@mail.gmail.com> <27513e550910022003g4c4bb780s8c36f55c805feba0@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60910050447q7f476f89mda57aa07f9ac1607@mail.gmail.com> <200910051304.18485.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:41:48 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560910051041t58be3b50v9adee3da589740fe@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: using 'se' in conversation From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 2450 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 563 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > Why is "pu noroi viska" grammatical, but not "noroi pu viska"? "noroi [ku] pu viska" is grammatical, but jbofi'e has problems with the elidable terminator of tag [KU]. The question is, why is "pu noroi" a valid compound tag, but not "noroi pu"? See: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Internal+grammar+of+tags I seem to have some problems with the lojban tiki (my browser is IE7). The frame on the left with all the links is gone, and there's some script error showing. mu'o mi'e xorxes